Week 46 - ATP World Tour Finals - London (Hard)

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

RE: Week 46 - ATP World Tour Finals - London (Hard)

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes, it's annoyingly actually good for the tournament that every win brings significant ranking points ( and I presume dosh ) even if qualification or not for the SF is settled for a player.

( Bouncy was hailing RRs, but the ATP managed to show how they can go very wrong without clear guidelines and safeguards )

Anyway, Ferrer did better against Nishikori than Raonic did against Andy ( saving us from potential games won % calculations ). As said, Andy's difficulties stem from what happened on Day One.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Ah well. Come on, Andy. If you can't do it in 2, do it in 3. You wouldn't get any further, but it would be another 200 points and very, very satisfying!

Ratty · County player

Round Robin really is the most ridiculously discredited format, even more so when a reserve comes in at this stage. The only tennis match worth watching is one where the winner progresses to the next round and the loser goes home. I feel sorry for the punters who have paid large amounts of money to watch nothing matches.

indiana · Tennis legend

I'm as you gather no great general supporter of RRs, but in a strange way it was a good indication that there have been a few thumpings.

At least they certainly weren't putting on an exhibition ( or they need to work a hell of a lot better at it ! ) As I said earlier, many of the losers' performances were disappointing, but the winners' ruthlessness was pleasing.

And how have all these folk been watching "nothing matches" ? For the first two matches of their groups something has been on the line re progression for every player and even for Fed tonight 200 ranking points ( as Madeline said important to his well known aim to get back to no 1 ) as well as how he is positioned for the SF ( the likelihood being that he needs to beat Andy to avoid Djokovic )

Not very long matches or as competitive matches as folk would have hoped, yes, but one takes that chance going to a competitive sporting event ( and no script ! ), one takes that chance with knock out matches too, but "nothing matches " I don't get so please explain yourself more.

Winning and losing matches has been important - or are you suggesting something else ?

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Oh dear. Just not serving well enough - and only one challenge left already, after 2 games.

indiana · Tennis legend

Och, it's a nothing match anyway :)

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

This match is not on TV here in Brazil. No surprise there. Judging from what I am seeing on livescores, it is probably not a bad thing. Spares me the agony.

Julia Carrot · All-time great

Watching judy dancing is slightly less painful

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Just 8 points in the 1st set for Andy. So that's that then. What does he do now. Does he fight in the hope of 200 ranking points and some pride or does he head into the off season as quick as possible.

BeefyDeedz · Pro player

The serve didn't turn up and now he hasn't turned up. Offseason can not come quick enough and I'll reserve my judgement until the beginning of next year regarding things such as his mental desire that all these pundits keep yapping on about including his warm up. But now that Andy's year is finally over for good (minus the IPTL) I can safely say that he has to be much better from start to finish next year in playing the top players to even have a chance of winning the big tournaments. Now I'm just praying for the prevention of a double bagel and for Andy to actually show something in this match.

indiana · Tennis legend

Well beaten by Nishikori, got past Raonic ( who evidently picked up an injury in that match and his serve weapon was well below par ) and now being royally thumped by Fed.

Could have gone better, although as suggested expectations probably had to be fairly limited.

200 points added and the season end is probably for the best.

indiana · Tennis legend

Be quite a good one to win from here.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Be quite a good one to win from here.

No such luck! Beaten by 0 & 1 in 56 minutes! disbelief Woeful!

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

So, Andy. Do yourself a favour. Pull out of this Mickey Mouse "Show" (I refuse to call it a tournament) in Asia, get some serious rest and then dive into a full off season training schedule.

-- Edited by Bob in Spain on Thursday 13th of November 2014 09:17:23 PM