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I think its a product of a number of things, previous success & knowing how & having contacts to recruit in the UK. These are really strong programmes with excellent US/Mexican coaches, Cam & Pauls legacy at TCU, South Carolina. Perhaps Emily As at Stanford. All three tennis programmes are a step up on Drake & Memphis, New Mexico State & to a lesser extent Utah, Dominian who were able to grow their programmes on a resource that others were slower to tap into primarily due to British coaches. Texas State Women a programme I always thought was very good (US coach) have been on it though for a decade tried hard to recruit Harriet who I think was on the cusp of going. 



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Mens Indoor Championships (KO team event)

Friday:
TCU sweep into the quarters beating Baylor 4-0.
TCU took the dubs point with wins for #2 Jack P-J +1 and #3. Jake Fearnley +1 vs Finn Bass +1 went unfinished at 5-5.
Singles win for #1 Jake F . #2 Jack P-J was up 5-2 in the third set vs Finn B. #6 Lui M was up 5-0 in the third.

S Carolina lose 3-4 to Uni Georgia. S Carolina took the dubs point with wins from #1 Connor T/ Toby S and 2#J Storey+1. S Carolina carried the momentum with straight sets wins from #1 Toby and #2 Connor. Most teams have decent players at the top of the lineup, but many lack depth #3-#6 and this was the case for S Carolina today.

Teams with Brits in still to play are Stanford, N Carolina and Tennessee

www.wearecollegetennis.com/championships/ita-d1-mens-indoor-champs/



-- Edited by Elegant Point on Friday 17th of February 2023 07:27:46 PM


 No. 17 Stanford men's tennis fell to No. 4 Michigan, 4-2, in the round of 16 at the ITA Indoor National Championships. The Cardinal will take on Tennessee in a consolation match on Saturday.

Sixth-ranked Southern California defeated the No. 12 North Carolina men's tennis team , 4-1 on Friday. 

The #11 Tennessee men's tennis team lost its first-round match  Friday, narrowly falling to #5 Virginia 4-3. Tennessee (6-4) won the doubles point behind wins on courts two and three, including a fantastic 6-3 effort from #34 Emile Hudd +1. #18 Jo Monday won the #1 singles 4-6, 6-3, 6-2.

Saturday's tussle for a spot in the semis will be the first meeting between TCU and Georgia in more than a decade. The programs last squared off on the tennis courts on Jan. 29, 2012. The Bulldogs own an 8-1 edge in the all-time series.



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Elegant Point wrote:
Elegant Point wrote:

Mens Indoor Championships (KO team event)

Friday:
TCU sweep into the quarters beating Baylor 4-0.
TCU took the dubs point with wins for #2 Jack P-J +1 and #3. Jake Fearnley +1 vs Finn Bass +1 went unfinished at 5-5.
Singles win for #1 Jake F . #2 Jack P-J was up 5-2 in the third set vs Finn B. #6 Lui M was up 5-0 in the third.

S Carolina lose 3-4 to Uni Georgia. S Carolina took the dubs point with wins from #1 Connor T/ Toby S and 2#J Storey+1. S Carolina carried the momentum with straight sets wins from #1 Toby and #2 Connor. Most teams have decent players at the top of the lineup, but many lack depth #3-#6 and this was the case for S Carolina today.

Teams with Brits in still to play are Stanford, N Carolina and Tennessee

www.wearecollegetennis.com/championships/ita-d1-mens-indoor-champs/



-- Edited by Elegant Point on Friday 17th of February 2023 07:27:46 PM


 No. 17 Stanford men's tennis fell to No. 4 Michigan, 4-2, in the round of 16 at the ITA Indoor National Championships. The Cardinal will take on Tennessee in a consolation match on Saturday.

Sixth-ranked Southern California defeated the No. 12 North Carolina men's tennis team , 4-1 on Friday. 

The #11 Tennessee men's tennis team lost its first-round match  Friday, narrowly falling to #5 Virginia 4-3. Tennessee (6-4) won the doubles point behind wins on courts two and three, including a fantastic 6-3 effort from #34 Emile Hudd +1. #18 Jo Monday won the #1 singles 4-6, 6-3, 6-2.

Saturday's tussle for a spot in the semis will be the first meeting between TCU and Georgia in more than a decade. The programs last squared off on the tennis courts on Jan. 29, 2012. The Bulldogs own an 8-1 edge in the all-time series.


 The way so many matches get left unfinished leaves me always bemused although I get why - the match is done and games still being played dont need to be finished . But for the players it must feel a little like a chase to the line , do you think players - at least when starting college tennis - get distracted by what is going on elsewhere ? 



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Oakland2002 wrote:

I think its a product of a number of things, previous success & knowing how & having contacts to recruit in the UK. These are really strong programmes with excellent US/Mexican coaches, Cam & Pauls legacy at TCU, South Carolina. Perhaps Emily As at Stanford. All three tennis programmes are a step up on Drake & Memphis, New Mexico State & to a lesser extent Utah, Dominian who were able to grow their programmes on a resource that others were slower to tap into primarily due to British coaches. Texas State Women a programme I always thought was very good (US coach) have been on it though for a decade tried hard to recruit Harriet who I think was on the cusp of going. 


 agree with your comment about others being slower to tap in to the UK resource, this ties in with comment from one of the US college tennis moms I follow

 do you think with the rise in the use of UTR that there are fewer undiscovered players? Some of those guys who went to top MMs are now going directly or transferring to P5s. I think of the Brits-Memphis used to get a lot of them, e.g. Peniston who had a top career ranking of 123 and has earned 400K. With the rise of British progress tour and other UTR events, the P5 coaches can find the Brits now. They use to miss out since GB did not host as many Futures events as the rest of Europe and it seemed a lot of Brits just played LTA. Over the last 4-5 years there have been many more Brits on top P5s to the detriment of the MMs who used to draw them.



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Mens Indoor Championships

The Horned Frogs picked as good a time as any to snap their 40-year win drought vs. Georgia. TCU's triumph secured its second straight trip to the Indoor Nationals semifinals. The Horned Frogs will face No. 2 seed Kentucky at noon on Sunday for the right to play for their second straight indoor national championship.

Doubles Results
#24 Trent Byrde / Ethan Quinn (UGA) def. Jake Fearnley / Luc Fomba (TCU): 7-6
Sander Jong / Jack Pinnington (TCU) def. Teodor Guisca / Philip Henning (UGA): 7-5
Singles
#17 Jake Fearnley (TCU) def. #5 Ethan Quinn (UGA): 7-6 [7-1], 6-3
Jack Pinnington (TCU) def. #87 Trent Bryde: 7-5, 7-5
Lui Maxted vs. Miguel Perez Pena (UGA): 6-7 [6-7], 5-1

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Billy Blaydes only started at Auburn this January - and this is him cliniching the team win:

twitter.com/i/status/1614788437629980674

Go, Billy !

Tad Maclean is also/was also at Auburn, I think

I've got a lot of time for Tad - great serve, good player....

He must be about 23 by now but I see on his Linkedin that he's currently just started working as an international tax consultant at Deloittes - I'm guessing that pays the bills better than tennis ! Good luck to him....

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JonH comes home wrote:

 The way so many matches get left unfinished leaves me always bemused although I get why - the match is done and games still being played dont need to be finished . But for the players it must feel a little like a chase to the line , do you think players - at least when starting college tennis - get distracted by what is going on elsewhere ? 


 Dual matches are great to watch, especially if they have all 6 courts side by side.  Easy to move between the 6 singles matches and at least a couple of them should be competitive. Can be really exciting (and noisy) if its down to the last couple of matches as to which team gets the win.

The crowd are noisy and for the most part theres a great atmosphere and because of multiple matches going on it would be impossible to enforce silence between points. Is it distracting? I asked my son and he said not the general hubbub, just occasionally if you get hecklers deliberately trying to be off putting. He said the womans teams sometimes struggle more with the heckling and some schools are known for being idiots. Would be interested to hear others opinions.

In the dual matches Ive watched, the players even call out to encourage each other whilst playing, cheer so the rest of the team know won a set, tie break etc and theyre definitely aware of whats happening on other courts. 

After years of a playing in a live College tennis atmosphere, maybe thats why Cam, Joe and others had so little trouble transferring to playing in front of big crowds?

College tennis dual matches are designed to be short - one set doubles, although many would prefer to play an 8 game pro set, also the no let and no ad rules. The no ad rule maybe a crowd pleaser and shorten matches, but many players miss the drama and opportunities that the ad rule creates. The no let rule was brought in to stop cheats calling a let after being served an ace.

And the biggest bug bear of all, playing clutch...  It differs by coach preference, travel deadlines and conference. Unfinished matches don't count for UTR, and UTR is one of the factors in selection for fall flights, qualifier vs MD for some ITA regionals, selection to some gold ball events. For the big tournaments such as Kickoff, Indoors, NCAAs with multiple teams, it makes sense for the timing and for the excitement to stop after the clinch. But regular season matches, why not let the team play out? I can remember Charlie Broom was up against a much higher ranked singles player and they called clutch, Charlie was pretty annoyed as it would have been a very significant win.

 

 



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Thank you EP, enjoyed that write up !

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Mens Indoor Championships- semifinal

The third-ranked Horned Frogs took out No. 2 Kentucky 4-2 on Sunday to punch the program's second straight ticket to the ITA Indoor National Championship.
TCU, which captured its first-ever national title in 2022, is the first defending champion to appear in consecutive indoor national championships since 2011.
TCU moves on to face in-state rival and No. 6 seed Texas for all the marbles at noon CT on Monday.

Doubles Results
Jake Fearnley / Luc Fomba (TCU) def. Alafia Ayeni / Taha Baadi (UK): 6-4
Lapadat / JJ Mercer (UK) def Sander Jong / Jack Pinnington (TCU: 6-2
Sebastian Gorzny / Pedro Vives (TCU) def. Liam Draxl / Jaden Weekes (UK): 6-3
Order of finish: 2, 3, 1

Singles Results
#45 Liam Draxl (UK) def Jake Fearnley (TCU): 7-6, 6-4
#49 Luc Fomba (TCU) def. #66 Alafia Ayeni (UK): 6-4, 4-6, 6-4
#16 Joshua Lapadat (UK) def. Jack Pinnington (TCU). 6-2, 2-6, 6-2
Sander Jong (TCU) vs. #115 Taha Baadi (UK): 6-7, 7-6, 1-1
#124 Sebastian Gorzny (TCU) def. Jaden Weekes (UK): 6-2, 6-3
Tomas Jirousek (TCU) def. #57 Charlelie Cosnet (UK): 6-4, 3-6, 6-3
Order of finish: 5, 1, 2, 3, 6

That winning moment
https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FTCUMensTennis%2Fstatus%2F1627435268616724488&widget=Tweet



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I see TCU won the final. Both Jake and Jack won in doubles. Jack also in singles and Jake was a set a piece when results elsewhere put the tie to bed.

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Todays college rankings for British players 

17. Amelia Rajecki 

20. Angelica Blake

40. Kylie Bilchev

96. Holly Staff 

 

Nell Miller and Rajecki #5 doubles 



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Colette's report:

tenniskalamazoo.blogspot.com/2023/02/tcu-sweeps-texas-for-back-to-back.html

I rather like the damn-with-faint-praise part where she writes:

".... with freshman Pinnington Jones defeating Micah Braswell 6-4, 6-0 at line 3. Pinnington Jones, who just became eligible on February 8, hadn't been particularly impressive in his first four dual matches, but today he showed why his eligibility status was so significant in assessing TCU's prospects this spring."

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Coup Droit wrote:

pbs.twimg.com/media/FofIgDGWYAArZs-

The TCU line-up last night - Jack's first appearance - and three out of six players are GB !


 Interesting CD, nice to see so many Brits.

I was wondering on the record for numbers of Brits on a  team and think it must go to Drake 2017-2018, with 8 Brits! Ben Clark, Ben Stride, Viney Gillespie, Barney Thorold, Ben Wood , Tom Hands, Callum MacGeoch and Freddie Powell. Drake fell out of favour with the Brits allegedly due to the coach not delivering on scholarship promises. Link to one case that went to court below.

Colleges with 3  Brits on the roster

TCU(Big12) Jack Pinnington Jones, Jacob Fearnley, Lui Maxted 

Memphis (American Athletic) was another Brit stronghold and currently has David Stephenson, Oscar Cutting and Harry Rock.

Delaware (Colonial Athletic) James Wilkinson, Euan Mackenzie, Tobey, Lock

South Carolina (Southerneast) Toby Samuel, James Storey, Connor Thompson

please add to the list if you know of any Ive missed.

https://godrakebulldogs.com/sports/mens-tennis/roster/2017-1

https://eu.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2020/06/26/drake-university-tennis-coach-reneged-on-scholarship-offer-to-european-brothers-lawsuit-states/3206022001/


 There is one other Brit on the TCU roster to make it 4.



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Tennpar wrote:

Destinee?


 No news since last search -  presumably still in the USA. Last match seems to be WAco 2022

Also this from 2012. - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-2240599/Are-Destinee-Essence-Martins-Britains-answer-Williams-sisters.html

Sorry nothing recent.



-- Edited by Strongbow on Friday 24th of February 2023 12:59:19 AM

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