Ace Ventura wrote:

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A bit harsh on Beth as she has nothing to show for a near 2 hour battle with Jodie, but as Abigail said, pretty much all the extended games went to Jodie. 6-3 6-3.

Jodie plays Emma tomorrow in what will surely be a group decider, and fairly significantly, more than likely to avoid Harriet in the SF.

Storming comeback by Eliz in the final (on going) womens match. She was *1-4 down, but won the next 5 games to take the set, and has an immediate break in the opening game of the second, so 6 games in a row.

Obviously not as exciting as a tense race for the top 2 spots, but it should be really tight for places 3-6 in this group, and it's obviously significant money for these players the higher you finish.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Wednesday 12th of August 2020 06:13:47 PM

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 I think Emma is playing way above her ranking and can see her beating both Jodie and Harriet to win the event. As long as She stays fit. 

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Out of the 18 matches played so far, 15 have gone with rankings-a higher proportion than usual? Only exceptions are Beth's losses to Emily and Nadia plus Eden's loss to Freya. Maybe a few more tomorrow?

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9 of those 18 were from Emma, Jodie, and Harriet who are a fair way ahead of the field, both on paper, and in practice, so that does need to be taken into account. It kind of goes back to that WC discussion at the start of the week. We've seen Naomi, Emily Ap, Eliz, and Nadia in 4 of the 5 SGH weeks, Freya and Beth in 3, and Eden and Emily Arb in 2, so we've been so used to seeing the vast majority of these players week in, week out, sharing titles, and most of them are capable of beating each other on their day, obviously some are ahead of others, but it generally wouldn't be a massive surprise if anyone beat the other out of all of those. Nadia would probably still seem the most surprising, but she's beaten Emily Ap and Arb, Eliz, and now Beth this week, so it was quite a nice, well matched field, with no huge, out of their depth, outsiders.

I'm always happy to see Emma compete, but the moment she and Harriet were added (without even an announcement...) the playing field was blown apart, and that was pretty foresight stuff, not just in hindsight, and while Jodie has been (relatively) pushed in a couple of her matches, Group B was pretty much to decide the 3, 4, 5, 6 placings once Jodie and Emma were drawn in it.

If an opponent could stay in a set, and then take it, and then nick the MTB, they could maybe lose the odd very surprise match, but in a round robin format, the chances of any on the 500+ field keeping up with the obvious better players was always unlikely. I suppose without Emma and Harriet, Jodie would have been a clear favourite for the title, so at least now the semi finals and final should be more interesting than it could/would have been, but it just means a less level playing field in a lot of the group matches, which is a bit of a shame for the regulars - the pre match odds in the Emma-Nadia match were 1/40 vs 19/2.

I'm not even sure how much interest those WCs have brought. There's still just the same 3 or 4 regular posters in here, but with the odd additional comment. Perhaps it'll pick up in the semi finals assuming we get Harriet vs Emma/Jodie, and Freya/Naomi vs the other, but yes, not many surprise results thus far. Nadia vs Beth is the only real 'wow' result for me, although a few MTBs have added a bit more interest, and the race to 2nd in particular in Group B is pretty interesting.

Ace Ventura wrote:

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Bagel wrote:

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Out of the 18 matches played so far, 15 have gone with rankings-a higher proportion than usual? Only exceptions are Beth's losses to Emily and Nadia plus Eden's loss to Freya. Maybe a few more tomorrow?

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9 of those 18 were from Emma, Jodie, and Harriet who are a fair way ahead of the field, both on paper, and in practice, so that does need to be taken into account. It kind of goes back to that WC discussion at the start of the week. We've seen Naomi, Emily Ap, Eliz, and Nadia in 4 of the 5 SGH weeks, Freya and Beth in 3, and Eden and Emily Arb in 2, so we've been so used to seeing the vast majority of these players week in, week out, sharing titles, and most of them are capable of beating each other on their day, obviously some are ahead of others, but it generally wouldn't be a massive surprise if anyone beat the other out of all of those. Nadia would probably still seem the most surprising, but she's beaten Emily Ap and Arb, Eliz, and now Beth this week, so it was quite a nice, well matched field, with no huge, out of their depth, outsiders.

I'm always happy to see Emma compete, but the moment she and Harriet were added (without even an announcement...) the playing field was blown apart, and that was pretty foresight stuff, not just in hindsight, and while Jodie has been (relatively) pushed in a couple of her matches, Group B was pretty much to decide the 3, 4, 5, 6 placings once Jodie and Emma were drawn in it.

If an opponent could stay in a set, and then take it, and then nick the MTB, they could maybe lose the odd very surprise match, but in a round robin format, the chances of any on the 500+ field keeping up with the obvious better players was always unlikely. I suppose without Emma and Harriet, Jodie would have been a clear favourite for the title, so at least now the semi finals and final should be more interesting than it could/would have been, but it just means a less level playing field in a lot of the group matches, which is a bit of a shame for the regulars - the pre match odds in the Emma-Nadia match were 1/40 vs 19/2.

I'm not even sure how much interest those WCs have brought. There's still just the same 3 or 4 regular posters in here, but with the odd additional comment. Perhaps it'll pick up in the semi finals assuming we get Harriet vs Emma/Jodie, and Freya/Naomi vs the other, but yes, not many surprise results thus far. Nadia vs Beth is the only real 'wow' result for me, although a few MTBs have added a bit more interest, and the race to 2nd in particular in Group B is pretty interesting.

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 For some reason, I found myself more interested in the non-Emma and non-Harriet matches (and to an extent non-Jodie ones too) - so in terms of whether there was more interest in those two WCs being in the event  I wouldn't know -  but certainly not from my end, mainly because they're expected to win their matches. Maybe there will be more bets placed or more viewers on youtube?  For tomorrow's matches, I've watched Emma v Jodie (almost ad nauseam in the last few weeks !!) at the British Tour and twice at the Battle of Brits ... so I'll probs want to watch some other players

-- Edited by cya on Wednesday 12th of August 2020 09:12:46 PM

JonH comes home wrote:

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The real thing that will measure interest isnt going to be folks posting here, sadly, it will be viewers of the streaming and bets placed.


No idea if they measure those or if theres any information but those are what matter.

And let's face it, the mens is a much more interesting week, v tight. But the posts here are several pages more than the mens. I'm posting a little in both, but really it is you ,(Ace) and TA who are driving the overall levels of perceived interest each week as a largely two person show with a little help from the likes of me!

So no real way of telling how it's going as you'll happily post regardless of whether it's two ducks playing or two tennis pros!

And that's meant to be a positive by the way, hopefully humorously put!

-- Edited by JonH comes home on Wednesday 12th of August 2020 09:03:38 PM

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  Thanks JonH for the comments. it's really Ace rather than me - I just keep track of the matches and results - Ace gives the analysis. But you can see greater interest in this series generally compared with the British Tour, and posters who wouldn't normally venture away from the WTA events. Of course there haven't been any WTA events, so no surprise that more people are in here. The series has now reached a thousand posts over the six week period.

JonH comes home wrote:

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Is there any resource which has head to head results summarised over past few weeks?

It would be interesting for someone knowledgeable to look at the British players and rank them 1 to 20 over the summer play? How different to real top 20 would it be?!

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 I have around half the results already saved from SGH, and am gradually adding the ones I missed. Not quite sure how to calculate the ranking if you bring in the BOB etc weeks.

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JonH comes home wrote:

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The real thing that will measure interest isnt going to be folks posting here, sadly, it will be viewers of the streaming and bets placed.


No idea if they measure those or if theres any information but those are what matter.

And let's face it, the mens is a much more interesting week, v tight. But the posts here are several pages more than the mens. I'm posting a little in both, but really it is you ,(Ace) and TA who are driving the overall levels of perceived interest each week as a largely two person show with a little help from the likes of me!

So no real way of telling how it's going as you'll happily post regardless of whether it's two ducks playing or two tennis pros!

And that's meant to be a positive by the way, hopefully humorously put!

-- Edited by JonH comes home on Wednesday 12th of August 2020 09:03:38 PM

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  Thanks JonH for the comments. it's really Ace rather than me - I just keep track of the matches and results - Ace gives the analysis. But you can see greater interest in this series generally compared with the British Tour, and posters who wouldn't normally venture away from the WTA events. Of course there haven't been any WTA events, so no surprise that more people are in here. The series has now reached a thousand posts over the six week period.

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 1000 plus versus 600 mens. So 1600 total and growing. 

British tour 2020 is 435 womens posts and 193 mens , so 628 total.

 Battle of Brits and Progress Tour 3 events got 880 posts

Suggests uk pro caught the imagination