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RE: British Tour 2023


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I think the UK Pro League has largely taken the place of Premier events, leaving the LTA to focus on offering an expanded BT at mostly G2 level.

-- Edited by Lambda on Friday 19th of May 2023 03:18:47 PM


 that would make sense - I think I have said before, I wondered if BT and UKPL should in essence merge, with UKPL like the Masters 1000 brand (or Premier) of the BT, but all interlinked. Maybe with people doing well at BT level getting UKPL wild cards and a joint points system not unlike the main ATP/WTA Tours. 

It might make sense. They could still keep the branding of the UKPL events but maybe under a new overall banner of the UK Tennis Tour or something. 

 



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Grade 1 event this week in South Wales

Finals:

Ciara Moore v Kate Mansfield


Mike Shaw v Tom Loxley

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JonH comes home wrote:
Lambda wrote:

I think the UK Pro League has largely taken the place of Premier events, leaving the LTA to focus on offering an expanded BT at mostly G2 level.

-- Edited by Lambda on Friday 19th of May 2023 03:18:47 PM


 that would make sense - I think I have said before, I wondered if BT and UKPL should in essence merge, with UKPL like the Masters 1000 brand (or Premier) of the BT, but all interlinked. Maybe with people doing well at BT level getting UKPL wild cards and a joint points system not unlike the main ATP/WTA Tours. 

It might make sense. They could still keep the branding of the UKPL events but maybe under a new overall banner of the UK Tennis Tour or something. 

 


 I dont know if it was planned before Covid but the UKPL has been a great addition to the domestic calendar. Not sure it would have got off the ground as well as it did without Covid. Which meant reasonable ranked players played in it. 
but it is great as offers decent money and guaranteed games. Very useful for anyone coming back from injury to get some games in as well. 



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Coup Droit wrote:

Grade 1 event this week in South Wales

Finals:

Ciara Moore v Kate Mansfield


Mike Shaw v Tom Loxley


 Congrats to Tom Loxley who beat ATP-ranked Mike Shaw for the title

The women's result is not A1 clear - it simply says 4-0 ret. (with no name) 

But I read it to be that Ciara won, and poor Kate had to retire. 



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Coup Droit wrote:

Coup Droit wrote:

Grade 1 event this week in South Wales

Finals:

Ciara Moore v Kate Mansfield


Mike Shaw v Tom Loxley


 Congrats to Tom Loxley who beat ATP-ranked Mike Shaw for the title

The women's result is not A1 clear - it simply says 4-0 ret. (with no name) 

But I read it to be that Ciara won, and poor Kate had to retire. 




Yes, Ciara won. Pics of players with their trophies on Penarth's instagram
https://www.instagram.com/p/Csd_zsloeZK/

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It's a big British Tour event this week

On grass. In North Oxford.

And a lot of your youngsters, with big hopes for Junior Wimbledon, are there

Mika, Hannah Read, Ellie Blackford, Sarah Copley, Erin Pearce, Flora, Maria Ustic - it really is a loaded girl's fraw


The men's is a lot less of a junior high school shindig

Stefan Cooper is top seed. Fabio Nestola, Luca Pow and Hugo Coquelin do provide some top junior interest. But it's a more balanced draw

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I noticed after this week, there are other grass court events in the British tour at west Worthing, Frinton and also Felixstowe , where the UKPL is this week.

There is also the Scottish Grass Court Championships at Giffnock, which is great and Scotland has a great tradition with these championships at Craiglockhart in years gone by. Yet, it isnt quite what it seems

competitions.lta.org.uk/tournament/d17daedc-396d-4881-a254-029f366bfd59/Factsheet

The Scottish Grass Court Championships arent in fact on grass - rather, artificial grass. Which is a shame anyway but why call them the Scottish Grass Court championships if they arent on real , natural grass? The Scottish Championships , maybe? Or Scottish Outdoor, or Giffnock Open or the whatever. But artificial grass isnt grass.

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But good to see a run of decent grass events !

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All 8 of the quarter-finalists in the women's here are juniors

Getting good practice for the important junior grass events coming up. And hoping for the wimbly wildcard playoff place.

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Coup Droit wrote:

All 8 of the quarter-finalists in the women's here are juniors


Getting good practice for the important junior grass events coming up. And hoping for the wimbly wildcard playoff place.




There isn't a play-off place on offer here. That will be on offer for winning the Premier in Worthing in a couple of weeks. Or did you mean hoping they would get noticed for a discretionary WC?

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Lambda wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:

All 8 of the quarter-finalists in the women's here are juniors


Getting good practice for the important junior grass events coming up. And hoping for the wimbly wildcard playoff place.



 


There isn't a play-off place on offer here. That will be on offer for winning the Premier in Worthing in a couple of weeks. Or did you mean hoping they would get noticed for a discretionary WC?


  Hey Lambda - just remind us that arent as close to these things (and I know youve posted about it many times!!) which events do feed in to that wild card play off? 

Worthing as you mention, does this weeks UKPL event feed in to it as well? Was there anything from the Progress Tour or any junior events? And any others that have taken place on non grass surfaces that we might already know the winner of? Thanks!



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Lambda wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:

All 8 of the quarter-finalists in the women's here are juniors


Getting good practice for the important junior grass events coming up. And hoping for the wimbly wildcard playoff place.



 


There isn't a play-off place on offer here. That will be on offer for winning the Premier in Worthing in a couple of weeks. Or did you mean hoping they would get noticed for a discretionary WC?


 No, to be honest, I'd just got confused ..... cry

Although, why not, I'll go for the second option biggrin



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JonH -
Play-off WCs will go to
Winners of UKPL this week
Winner of Progress Tour Cromer (men only, nothing for women)
Winners of Premier BT West Worthing

The remaining are ranking based
Highest NCAA ranked man & woman to sign in (providing they're in the top 100)
Top 2 junior ranked girls (currently Ella & Ranah) or 3rd junior ranked girl (currently Mimi) if either of those already has a qWC

Women 1 discretionary WC
Men 2 discretionary WCs

-- Edited by Lambda on Friday 2nd of June 2023 09:06:25 AM

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Lambda wrote:

JonH -
Play-off WCs will go to
Winners of UKPL this week
Winner of Progress Tour Cromer (men only, nothing for women)
Winners of Premier BT West Worthing

The remaining are ranking based
Highest ranked NCAA player to sign in (providing they're in the top 100)
Top 2 junior ranked girls (currently Ella & Ranah) or 3rd junior ranked girl (currently Mimi) if either of those already has a qWC

Women 1 discretionary WC
Men 2 discretionary WCs

-- Edited by Lambda on Friday 2nd of June 2023 09:01:35 AM


 great, thanks Lambda , that is very clear!

Looks like the Progress Tour, Cromer, event takes place next week also

https://www.theprogresstour.com/event-info/10-000-prize-money-series-cromer-2



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JonH comes home wrote:
Lambda wrote:

JonH -
Play-off WCs will go to
Winners of UKPL this week
Winner of Progress Tour Cromer (men only, nothing for women)
Winners of Premier BT West Worthing

The remaining are ranking based
Highest ranked NCAA player to sign in (providing they're in the top 100)
Top 2 junior ranked girls (currently Ella & Ranah) or 3rd junior ranked girl (currently Mimi) if either of those already has a qWC

Women 1 discretionary WC
Men 2 discretionary WCs

-- Edited by Lambda on Friday 2nd of June 2023 09:01:35 AM


 great, thanks Lambda , that is very clear!

Looks like the Progress Tour, Cromer, event takes place next week also

https://www.theprogresstour.com/event-info/10-000-prize-money-series-cromer-2


 presumably if any of those qualifying routes goes to someone who gets into qualies via a WC or into the play offs via ranking (or duplicates a position) it reverts to an additional discretionary wild card?  



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