US College Signings and General College Chat 2022/23

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

US College Signings 2022/23

Elegant Point · Satellite level

JonH comes home wrote:
Are the Big Ten and Big Twelve self proclaimed and presumably mutually exclusive? And geographically based in some way?

The link I posted above (and below) can explain the intricacies of the conference system far better than I can smile

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/8/20/6030683/25-maps-that-explain-college-football

IMO seems to boil down to $$$ and media deals. What I think it could mean for tennis is that teams Co located geographically with longstanding rivalries may no longer be in the same conference, or play non conference matches. This could impact local fan base, alumni $$ etc? Some teams may have to travel more ( flights instead coach) and this will add to the costs, time on the road etc. The Power teams are more likely to insist that the lesser teams travel to them for matches rather than vice versa.

TBH my interest is in following the players, which schools and conferences they pick, who plays where in the line up and how well they do at college. Also following those that continue to play once they graduate.

What the media says:
With USC and UCLA off to the Big Ten, the future of the remaining Pac-12 schools is stuck in a state of limbo. At present, theres at least one potential landing spot for programs seeking greener pastures: the Big 12.

As many as six schools have reportedly engaged in deep discussions about joining the Big 12, according to Dennis Dodd of CBS Sports. Dodd mentions Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado and Utah specifically, while adding that Oregon and Washington are also under consideration. Also on the table is a merger between the Big 12 and remaining Pac-12 schools.

How the Big 12 chooses to proceed will come down to what resolution the conference believes will make it more likely to get a richer media rights deal. Its believed that adding Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and Colorado would give the conference the same annual average value (AAV) in 2025the year Texas and Oklahoma leave for the SECas it does for its current 12 members now. Merging with the Pac-12 entirely, though, creates further complications, particularly with how interested ESPN and Fox might be in negotiating with one or both leagues.

The Pac-12 reportedly had a projected AAV of $500 million per yearor $42 million per schoolbefore USC and UCLA left. Now, that number is $300 million ($30 million per school), per the San Jose Mercury News. The conference released a statement on Tuesday saying its board of directors authorized the league to immediately begin renegotiating its media rights agreements, making the Pac-12s actual AAV in the coming years more difficult to forecast.

The Big Ten, meanwhile, has reportedly been contacted by 10 schools informally to seek a potential move to the conference after snagging USC and UCLA, according to Laine Higgins of The Wall Street Journal.

Elegant Point · Satellite level

JonH comes home wrote:
South eastern and colonial areas seem to be popular for Brits ?

SEC because its a Power 5 , so will have some of the stronger teams, maybe more scholarships per team ( not every team has max number of mens scholarships) etc.

Colonial (CAA) is a mid major, and has just added more teams in the conference realignment. East coast, so geographically closer to UK than West Coast for travel from UK. Maybe more scholarship $$ to a player 1 or 2 in a mid major than bottom or sit on the bench of Power 5.

Thinking of changing my name to Alexa wink

-- Edited by Elegant Point on Monday 12th of September 2022 06:07:41 PM

Elegant Point · Satellite level

US college recruiting still seems to be using the UTR ( universal tennis rating) system rather than the WTN (world tennis number)
Top ranked recruit by UTR is #1 Brit Jack P-J for the Men. Highest Brit woman is #39 Millie Bisset

Parsa
@Parsa_Nemati
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Sep 16
The top-150 male and female incoming freshmen in college tennis from the 2022 recruiting class ranked by UTR Rating.

Categories include nationality, @TennisRecNet class rank, ATP singles+doubles/ITF Jr. career-highs.

I will continue updating. Full list: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTOj5jhgAVgd50CpCSzX2xpSrIC85apY1H8f1K5f7OA/edit

Elegant Point · Satellite level

The ITA Mens All-American Championships will take place in Tulsa, Oklahoma; October 1-9, 2022. The event will be held at the Michael D. Case Tennis Center on the campus of the University of Tulsa

Main Draw singles (alphabetical by college) Toby Samuel, S. Carolina, Max Basing, Stanford, Emile Hudd, Tennessee

Qualifying singles Finn Bass, Baylor, Josh Wilson, Liberty, Ollie Tarvet, San Diego, Connor Thompson, South Carolina, Jake Fearnley, T U, Lui Maxted, TCU, Dan Siddal, Tulsa

A number of Brits in the pre-qualies, (256 players) nice to see Ollie Okonkwo (Illinois) is playing again

Doubles main draw Finn Bass +1 (Baylor), Toby Samuel, Connor Thompson, South Carolina, Jake Fearnley +1, TCU, Lui Maxted +1, TCU , Emile Hudd +1, Tennessee

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r6wHnAGh1RNRSYO6rxD6PmDRvq-B7uL6/view

Jake Fearnley recently won the Battle in the Bay Mens Singles

https://gofrogs.com/news/2022/9/25/mens-tennis-fearnley-wins-singles-championship-at-battle-in-the-bay-classic.aspx

Madadman · Masters Series Champion

Toby Samuel appeared to have a good weekend at an invitational tournament. I assume its a warm up for the ITA all American championships. He won the top singles bracket and also the doubles.

game****sonline.com/news/2022/09/25/samuel-thomson-go-undefeated-at-commodore-invitational/

-- Edited by Madadman on Tuesday 27th of September 2022 06:24:21 PM

Elegant Point · Satellite level

ITA All American

Doubles: IMO much harder to predict than the singles, but good luck to all the Brits including Lui

Sander Jong & Lui Maxted, TCU Closing out the 2021-22 season as the No. 11 ranked pair in the ITA Collegiate Tennis Rankings, TCUs Sander Jong and Lui Maxted will start the fall of 2022 as the No. 3 ranked doubles pair in the nation. The tandem compiled an 18-7 record en route to All-Big 12 Second Team accolades last season.

https://www.wearecollegetennis.com/2022/09/28/2022-ita-all-american-championships-begin-saturday/

Elegant Point · Satellite level

Below is the link to the links to watch along with the 2022 ITA Mens and Womens All-American Championships.

www.wearecollegetennis.com/2022/10/01/how-to-watch-the-2022-ita-all-american-championships/

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

A copy of the post from 2021/2022, as requested

golobos.com/news/2022/10/01/champs-maggs-and-pucalka-complete-dream-run/

Just a question:

In the above Lobo report, about Alex Maggs doubles title, it says:

"As college players in the event. Maggs and Pucalka are ineligible for any of the tournaments prize money."

In this more detailed report, it says:

www.abqjournal.com/2537070/unm-duo-wins-pro-doubles-crown-then-hits-the-road.html

"While the International Tennis Federation-sanctioned event allows for college players to compete and earn world ranking points in such events, NCAA rules still prohibit them from collecting the $930 prize money the ITF pays to the winners of doubles events at this level ($2,160 for the singles champion)."

I thought that was no longer true? I thought the 'expenses only' rule had been relaxed to a ceiling amount of approx 10k? Is this not so? (Was never so/was so but has been changed?)

PS For the 2022/23 thread, just me, but I do like the title that says '..and general college chat', like this one. As opposed to just signings. Difficult to know where to put current general stuff otherwise.

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Sunday 2nd of October 2022 02:07:47 PM

Elegant Point · Satellite level

RE: US College Signings and General College Chat 2022/23

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Thanks for the link, EP

Well done to Will Nolan and Finn Murgett. Now the real qualis start....

I see that James Story couldn't really follow up on his good showing in GB over summer

Ollie Okonkwo, Giacomo Revelli and Ewen Lumsden made the FQR, if I understood it right.

Elegant Point · Satellite level

ITA Mens Qualifying singles

Finn Bass, Baylor, Josh Wilson, Liberty, Ollie Tarvet, San Diego, Connor Thompson, South Carolina, Dan Siddal, Tulsa, David Stevenson, Memphis, Finn Murgett (PQ, Auburn), Will Nolan (PQ, Auburn)

Freshmen Ollie and Lui went out first round, also Connor.
Finn M, Will, Josh, Dan, R64.
David R32.
(Jake) Finn B went undefeated and is the only Brit into R16 and advanced into the main draw of the tournament.

baylorbears.com/news/2022/10/4/mens-tennis-mts-bass-moves-into-main-draw.aspx
colleges.wearecollegetennis.com/Competitions/ITA/Tournaments/draws/CA75F55A-ABC2-4824-B26C-54CAEAB67D60/59C1882B-6DA5-4BD4-B53B-1FE3437308AB

Main draw Mens Singles R1
Toby Samuel tough draw and a great win vs Ohio States JJ Tracey (7) 7-6, 6-1
Max Basing - win
Emile Hudd- win
Finn Bass- not played yet

colleges.wearecollegetennis.com/Competitions/ITA/Tournaments/draws/CA75F55A-ABC2-4824-B26C-54CAEAB67D60/59C1882B-6DA5-4BD4-B53B-1FE3437308AB

Elegant Point · Satellite level

Link to all the Singles matches - missed your fave? DW all of them, including qualies have been recorded :0)

https://web.track.tennis/events/watch?key=1836.9alejrzosOM&account=4614d3f8-7e39-41c5-b53e-5547fdccbd6b#/36125

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Looks like Finn Bass has lost his R1 match

Max and Toby now play each other

ALways interesting to follow the US championships...

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Looks like Finn Bass has lost his R1 match

Max and Toby now play each other

ALways interesting to follow the US championships...

Emile Hudd still in, hes British isnt he?

2022 ITA All-American Championships CrossCourt Cast Links