Week 37 - WTA Premier 5 $2M Rome, Italy Clay

the addict · Tennis legend

RE: Week 37 - WTA Premier 5 $2M Rome, Italy Clay

brittak · Satellite level

Good result for Jo although didnt manage to see any of it.
Tough match in the last 16 though - Mugaruza has been playing well.

And yes wow re Azarenka. Whichever way you look at it, that must have been some performance.

ROSAMUND · Futures level

JonH comes home wrote:
Nightmare draw for Jo. Cocchainetto (sorry sure spelling is wrong) has done very well recently, I think jo could struggle there and then Muguruza or Gauff.

Dont see Jo getting past a round here.

Pleased you got that wrong . Although you are correct about Muguruza as a potential opponent.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

ROSAMUND wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Nightmare draw for Jo. Cocchainetto (sorry sure spelling is wrong) has done very well recently, I think jo could struggle there and then Muguruza or Gauff.

Dont see Jo getting past a round here.
Pleased you got that wrong . Although you are correct about Muguruza as a potential opponent.

I get most of my predictions wrong, which I am not ashamed to admit!!!!

ROSAMUND · Futures level

Muguruza 9th seed v. Jo 7th seed is the only predicted match taking place in the last 16 in Rome. There are 3 qualifiers and Azarenka as an SE.

ROSAMUND · Futures level

ROSAMUND wrote:
In all the years she's played in the main draw in Rome Jo has always managed at least 1 win. i.e it has been the kindest clay court tournament for Jo. Interesting she had her fitness trainer with her as opposed to her coach or hitting partner.

When Sam Smith was commentating on Jo's match against Begu she questioned whether Jo really needed a coach(neither T.Hogstedt nor Dan Smethurst was in Rome) She thought Jo was better working things out for herself rather than continually looking up at her coach as happened in the 3rd set against Cirstea in New York.

ROSAMUND · Futures level

JonH comes home wrote:
ROSAMUND wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Nightmare draw for Jo. Cocchainetto (sorry sure spelling is wrong) has done very well recently, I think jo could struggle there and then Muguruza or Gauff.

Dont see Jo getting past a round here.
Pleased you got that wrong . Although you are correct about Muguruza as a potential opponent.
I get most of my predictions wrong, which I am not ashamed to admit!!!!

Well the tennisabstract gives Muguruza to win by a considerable margin. If Garbine does win Rome she will have done it the hard way. She would have beaten or have to beat most likely Stephens, Gauff, Jo, Azarenka, Halep and Ka. Pliskova. I think the match against Gauff was turned around simply because Gauff served 3 double faults in the same game.

ROSAMUND · Futures level

ROSAMUND wrote:
ROSAMUND wrote:
In all the years she's played in the main draw in Rome Jo has always managed at least 1 win. i.e it has been the kindest clay court tournament for Jo. Interesting she had her fitness trainer with her as opposed to her coach or hitting partner.
When Sam Smith was commentating on Jo's match against Begu she questioned whether Jo really needed a coach(neither T.Hogstedt nor Dan Smethurst was in Rome) She thought Jo was better working things out for herself rather than continually looking up at her coach as happened in the 3rd set against Cirstea in New York.

Well Annie K. has just announced during the Blinkova v. Ka. Pliskova match that Jo is no longer working with Th. Hogstedt. Well that proved to be a short partnership. Probably justifies Laura Robson's comments.

-- Edited by ROSAMUND on Friday 18th of September 2020 09:32:26 AM

indiana · Tennis legend

The bookies, who generally take everthing into consideration better than the purely stats based tennisabstract, have Garbine favourite vs Jo but not hugely. bet365 have it 8/11 vs 11/10.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
The bookies, who generally take everthing into consideration better than the purely stats based tennisabstract, have Garbine favourite vs Jo but not hugely. bet365 have it 8/11 vs 11/10.

Having said that, TA rate it 71-29 - not sure how that stacks up v bookies odds, it looks like bookies see it slightly closer than TA do?

TA see a Halep win overall, although as top seed that is hardly a wild prediction!

indiana · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
indiana wrote:
The bookies, who generally take everthing into consideration better than the purely stats based tennisabstract, have Garbine favourite vs Jo but not hugely. bet365 have it 8/11 vs 11/10.
Having said that, TA rate it 71-29 - not sure how that stacks up v bookies odds, it looks like bookies see it slightly closer than TA do?
TA see a Halep win overall, although as top seed that is hardly a wild prediction!

Certainly the TA % is much heavier to Garbine. The bet365 odds are 58% to 48%, so taking out the bookies margin and adding to 100, 55-45.

markymc1983 · Club Coach

ROSAMUND wrote:
ROSAMUND wrote:
ROSAMUND wrote:
In all the years she's played in the main draw in Rome Jo has always managed at least 1 win. i.e it has been the kindest clay court tournament for Jo. Interesting she had her fitness trainer with her as opposed to her coach or hitting partner.
When Sam Smith was commentating on Jo's match against Begu she questioned whether Jo really needed a coach(neither T.Hogstedt nor Dan Smethurst was in Rome) She thought Jo was better working things out for herself rather than continually looking up at her coach as happened in the 3rd set against Cirstea in New York.
Well Annie K. has just announced during the Blinkova v. Ka. Pliskova match that Jo is no longer working with Th. Hogstedt. Well that proved to be a short partnership. Probably justifies Laura Robson's comments.

-- Edited by ROSAMUND on Friday 18th of September 2020 09:32:26 AM

What did Laura say?

PaulM · Tennis legend

She thought their personalities would clash

indiana · Tennis legend

16: (9) Garbine Muguruza (ESP) WR 17 (CH 1 in 2017) beat (7) Johanna Konta WR 13 (CH 4 in 2017) by 6-4 6-1

3/7 BPs converted against 0/3

Been very quiet. Anyone watch it?

airsmashers · County player

High quality match not reflected by the score