Week 37 - WTA Premier 5 $2M Rome, Italy Clay

flamingowings · All-time great

Week 37 - WTA Premier 5 $2M Rome, Italy Clay

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

emmsie69 wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Thanks, fw and indy.
No one can lose points in 2020.
That's the sort of simple thing I can remember !
Just to confuse things, rumour has it that if Djokovics default had happened 1 round later thus equalling his US Open result last year then he would have lost points, not usre how true that is though and it is an exceptional circumstance.

He retired against Stan in R4 last year, so both R4, so I assume it'll just mean he would have lost those extra points he would have gained had he made the QF this year.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Ace Ventura wrote:
emmsie69 wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Thanks, fw and indy.
No one can lose points in 2020.
That's the sort of simple thing I can remember !
Just to confuse things, rumour has it that if Djokovics default had happened 1 round later thus equalling his US Open result last year then he would have lost points, not usre how true that is though and it is an exceptional circumstance.
He retired against Stan in R4 last year, so both R4, so I assume it'll just mean he would have lost those extra points he would have gained had he made the QF this year.

As I understand it, if hed made the qf hed have replaced 2020 for 2019 points but then being disqualified, hed have lost those 2020 points and got a zero counter in essence. Bm ie hed have lost 2020 and 2019 points. But as he lost in 4th round, the 2020 points didnt take over and this means they didnt count and he couldnt lose them

-- Edited by JonH comes home on Sunday 13th of September 2020 12:26:58 PM

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Cool, thanks Jon. I did think I read something like that at the time, but wasn't sure.

More significant in that case, certainly would ne to most players anyway, although maybe not quite as much to Djokovic, who'll generally get more than 180/360 points in pretty much every event he enters, even if there was a big, gaping 0 in his slam counters.

indiana · Tennis legend

So if Djoko had gone further before being disqualified he'd have ended up net with less points?! Terrific lol

And just when we'd left CD all content with a simple can't lose previously earned points in 2020 position. Now Djokovic and this interpretation of the rules indicate that maybe you can.

I hope the French Open contestants take note of up to which rounds they can assault officials/ball kids without losing out on previous points.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Hands clamped on ears: 'Not listening', 'not listening', 'not listening'......

flamingowings · All-time great

Coup Droit wrote:
Hands clamped on ears: 'Not listening', 'not listening', 'not listening'......

Being DQ'd is quite rare so just stick to the if they do better in 2020 than in 2019 - they get points. If they do worse in 2020 than in 2019 then they keep last year's points! For 99.9% that will be right!!

ROSAMUND · Futures level

JonH comes home wrote:
flamingowings wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Nightmare draw for Jo. Cocchainetto (sorry sure spelling is wrong) has done very well recently, I think jo could struggle there and then Muguruza or Gauff.

Dont see Jo getting past a round here.
Muguruza has get through Sloane Stephens first which is no means easy either - both streaky players at the best of times
Indeed, tough section.

It might never happen but Sloane is a good match up for Jo. They have met on 4 occasions all in 2019 and Jo has won on every occasion. Once was on hard courts, twice on clay and once on grass. The worst match ups are Svitolina, Strycova and one here in the same half of the draw in Jabeur. But it could all prove academic. Of course when Jo reached the final here in 2019 she was unseeded.

the addict · Tennis legend

Just to note - no entries in the doubles this year.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Cocciaretto plays (Q) Begu in R1, so that's a pretty tricky match for her. Clay is also Begu's preferred surface and she came through quals easily (dropping 6 games in 2 matches), and got to the WTA Prague semi final the other week, losing to Halep.

ROSAMUND · Futures level

Ace Ventura wrote:
Cocciaretto plays (Q) Begu in R1, so that's a pretty tricky match for her. Clay is also Begu's preferred surface and she came through quals easily (dropping 6 games in 2 matches), and got to the WTA Prague semi final the other week, losing to Halep.

Whoever Jo plays they seem to have recent good form on clay courts. It might not happen even now but whilst Begu has had a ranking since 2006 and Jo since 2008 they have never met in singles. Begu was voted newcomer of the year in 2011 the year before Laura.

-- Edited by ROSAMUND on Sunday 13th of September 2020 07:26:48 PM

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Begu won 6-2 6-2, so a first meeting between her and Jo, as Rosamund points out.

ROSAMUND · Futures level

Well Begu has certainly had plenty of practice on clay as Jo will be her ninth match on clay since the restart. She's only dropped 10 games so far in Rome. She beat the likes of Errani and Friedsam in qualifying.

Peter too · Tennis legend

R2: KONTA, Johanna (GBR) 7 13 (CH=4 2017) v BEGU, Irina-Camelia (ROM) 77 CH=22 2016

indiana · Tennis legend

Muguruza beat Stephens 6-3 6-3 and Gauff beat Jabeur 6-4 6-3.

So it will be Konta or Begu vs Muguruza or Gauff in the L16.