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paulisi wrote:
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Once again the Grand Slams are showing they can just do whatever the f they want. There needs to be a more unified approach.

And I don't think banning individuals from earning a living is a good thing either.


 That's because the governing bodies have difference stances - the WTA are happy for the Russian/Belarusian to play. Mainly because they bring in finances and there are lots of them. There may also be a legal case regarding right to work especially if they are not resident in their representative country.

 


 I think if the EU/UK/USA etc can sanction and completely freeze the assets of 100's of Russians, no one is going to get too worried about right to work legalities! And I would be interested to see what the players sponsors are doing - most of the companies have pulled out of Russia completely, do the sponsors intend to continue sponsoring the players? Again, not sure any contract law issues would stand the test of war or the like?   



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Im against this. Especially considering the likes of Sabalenka have been outspoken against her govt during the protests there. Its different to oligarchs who have been supported or influenced Putins government.

All this will do is strengthen resolve amongst mildly patriotic Russians that theyre against us.

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A unified approach would have taken much, much longer to agree. You can argue that Wimbledon is showing some leadership. I feel sorry for Russian players who are openly critical of this crass war and Putin's regime. Perhaps a dozen of them will lose out financially.  Compare this with the number of Ukrainians who are no longer able to make a living or who are maimed or lying dead in horrble circumstances.



-- Edited by stevemcqueen on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 03:28:36 PM

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stevemcqueen wrote:

A unified approach would have taken much, much longer to agree. You can argue that Wimbledon is showing some leadership. I feel sorry for Russian players who are openly critical of this crass war and Putin's regime. Perhaps a dozen of them will lose out financially.  Compare this with the number of Ukrainians who are no longer able to make a living or who are maimed or lying dead in horrble circumstances.



-- Edited by stevemcqueen on Wednesday 20th of April 2022 03:28:36 PM


 Agreed - or "This" as folks seem to say nowadays!



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It looks like the LTA will follow suit with the grass court events which are under WTA/ATP jurisdiction.
Will be interesting to see their reaction.

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Interesting to see how this develops, particularly with so many Russian players not based in Russia.

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Wouldn't it be nice if the war was over by then, Russia had withdrawn, and Wimbledon could change their minds?

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paulisi wrote:

It looks like the LTA will follow suit with the grass court events which are under WTA/ATP jurisdiction.
Will be interesting to see their reaction.


 Presumably some Russians will abandon the grass if Wimbledon isnt open to them...

Agreed though, and I dont think the ATP and WTA have commented yet? 



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And confirmation that ban applies to all British events

twitter.com/Mike_Dickson_DM/status/1516786441552076808



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Richard Ingham Evans
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Blocking
@Wimbledon
TV coverage in
@Russia
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@Belrussia
will have big impact. Getting truth to Russian people is vital in trying to end war & with so many top stars banned & whole event unavailable sports community will be asking serious questions.

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The ATP arent happy about this decision - press release below. Could they boycott WImbledon? Or is the ranking piece key here - is withdraw ranking points status??

We strongly condemn Russias reprehensible invasion of Ukraine and stand in solidarity with the millions of innocent people affected by the ongoing war.

Our sport is proud to operate on the fundamental principles of merit and fairness, where players compete as individuals to earn their place in tournaments based on the ATP Rankings. We believe that todays unilateral decision by Wimbledon and the LTA to exclude players from Russia and Belarus from this years British grass-court swing is unfair and has the potential to set a damaging precedent for the game. Discrimination based on nationality also constitutes a violation of our agreement with Wimbledon that states that player entry is based solely on ATP Rankings. Any course of action in response to this decision will now be assessed in consultation with our Board and Member councils.

It is important to stress that players from Russia and Belarus will continue to be allowed to compete at ATP events under a neutral flag, a position that has until now been shared across professional tennis. In parallel, we will continue our joint humanitarian support for Ukraine under Tennis Plays for Peace.

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Seems others are looking at the ranking points question as well

twitter.com/josemorgado/status/1516813805388550150



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And if players cant enter the ATP events in Britain, will the ATP pull those ie Queens, Eastbourne, Nottingham, the Challengers etc - could they all get taken off the ATP/WTA roster for this year.

Could get ugly and interesting

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The decision to ban Russian and Belarusian players is discrimination of almost the highest level. The conflict has nothing to do with these players or any citizen of these countries whatsoever but they are being wrongly punished for something way beyond their control.
These actions by the Wimbledom commitee will anger Putin, a sport lover, which along with constant provocation from Boris Johnson could eventually bring disastorous consequences for us all. Whatever anyone believes they will achieve nothing positive.
The shameful Wimbledom commitee would have loved being in South Africa many decades ago where people were discriminated against because of colour and these actions are little better. They will have angered the wrong people by doing this and might come to regret it. Would we like it if our players were banned because we were in conflict with another country? No we wouldn't. The shoe can be on the other foot quicker than one thinks.
I appreciate that the conflict is a terrible situation but with players being banned for refusing to take an experimental medical procedure and now banned for being born in the wrong country this is another dark day for freedom, democracy and basic human rights.

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Mark1968 wrote:

The decision to ban Russian and Belarusian players is discrimination of almost the highest level. The conflict has nothing to do with these players or any citizen of these countries whatsoever but they are being wrongly punished for something way beyond their control.
These actions by the Wimbledom commitee will anger Putin, a sport lover, which along with constant provocation from Boris Johnson could eventually bring disastorous consequences for us all. Whatever anyone believes they will achieve nothing positive.
The shameful Wimbledom commitee would have loved being in South Africa many decades ago where people were discriminated against because of colour and these actions are little better. They will have angered the wrong people by doing this and might come to regret it. Would we like it if our players were banned because we were in conflict with another country? No we wouldn't. The shoe can be on the other foot quicker than one thinks.
I appreciate that the conflict is a terrible situation but with players being banned for refusing to take an experimental medical procedure and now banned for being born in the wrong country this is another dark day for freedom, democracy and basic human rights.


Not this. 



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