Week 44 - ATP 1000 - BNP Paribas Masters, Paris (indoor hard)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Week 44 - ATP 1000 - BNP Paribas Masters, Paris (indoor hard)

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

What are the odds on Andy getting knocked out in his first match so he can focus on transition to clay ?

indiana · Tennis legend

Bob in Spain wrote:
What are the odds on Andy getting knocked out in his first match so he can focus on transition to clay ?

Pretty high against I'd say, particularly with the Davis Cup still a fair time off.

Indeed quite apart from ranking points and dosh, I'd say it will do him no harm at all to have a decent run here even on this surface, given the otherwise pretty light schedule he has been keeping to.

How he performs overall at the WTF may be a whole different matter.

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 30th of October 2015 10:30:28 PM

TMH · Futures qualifying

Pretty long, you mean?

High seems to imply a good chance, which is at odds with the rest of your post.

BeefyDeedz · Pro player

TMH wrote:
Pretty long, you mean?

High seems to imply a good chance, which is at odds with the rest of your post.

Wouldn't 'pretty high against' suggest the opposite?

indiana · Tennis legend

BeefyDeedz wrote:
TMH wrote:
Pretty long, you mean?

High seems to imply a good chance, which is at odds with the rest of your post.
Wouldn't 'pretty high against' suggest the opposite?

Indeed

Miriambee · Futures level

Bob in Spain wrote:
What are the odds on Andy getting knocked out in his first match so he can focus on transition to clay ?

have we noticed he's playing doubles with Colin fleming?

Aiming to be knocked out of the singles - I don't think so!

and continuing in doubles would be somewhat significant! (not that he's won R1 yet, but playing today).

indiana · Tennis legend

Coric beat Verdasco 6-4 6-4 so ...

R2/L32 : (2) Andy Murray WR 3 vs Borna Coric (CRO) WR 46 ( CH 33 in July, aged 18, JCH 1 at age 16 )

H2H 1-1 : 6-3 6-0 6-3 to Andy over the still 16 yo in 2013 Davis Cup WG P-O in Croatia (clay) and 6-1 6-3 to Coric in Dubai QF (hard) earlier this year, not Andy's finest.

-- Edited by indiana on Tuesday 3rd of November 2015 08:54:18 PM

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Miriambee wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
What are the odds on Andy getting knocked out in his first match so he can focus on transition to clay ?
have we noticed he's playing doubles with Colin fleming?

Er, yes: noted on the Paris Masters thread in the main men's forum - & he & Colin lost by 2 & 2 to Peya & Soares.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L32: (2) Andy Murray WR 3 defeated Borna Coric (CRO) WR 46 by 1 & 2

*****

L16: (16) David Goffin (BEL) WR 16 (CH = 14 in July) vs (2) Andy Murray WR 3

The head-to-head is technically 1-1: Andy beat Goffin in straight sets in the first round of Wimbledon last year, but handed Goffin a walkover in the L16 of this year's Rome Masters & according to Steve G, that isn't actually classed as a win.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Just managed to watch the match - I enjoyed it, plenty of good rallies (finishing the right way

) This kid is good, and he is a fighter, but he was just outclassed on a day where Andy was not taking a walkabout like he did in their last match.

vohor · Grand Slam Champion

Impressive score-line :)
Time to put a Belgian to the sword (part 1)!

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Bob in Spain wrote:
What are the odds on Andy getting knocked out in his first match so he can focus on transition to clay ?

Guess that answers that question. Not that there as ever any doubt in my mind. Just playing devil's advocate.

Truth is, I don't think Andy has any gear other than "full throttle". He wouldn't know how to give less than 100% if he tried.

airsmashers · County player

Getting the chance to beat Goffin before the DC final must of added some extra motivation.

theemptyvessel · Club Coach

airsmashers wrote:
Getting the chance to beat Goffin before the DC final must of added some extra motivation.

I totally agree. Not sure how Andy feels but surely this is a great chance to land a real psychological blow before the final and I am hoping to see some baked goods in the scoreline.