Weeks 26 & 27 - Wimbledon - main draw (grass)

philwrig · Hall of fame

RE: Weeks 26 & 27 - Wimbledon - main draw (grass)

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Andy's draw looks pretty good to me, at least up to the quarters. IF he meets Nadal there, I would think he has a good chance to beat him on grass for the first time - unless Rafa has another of his miraculous recoveries of form. Meeting possibly Fed in the semi sounds much better than meeting him in the final - he has beaten him in slam semis, (admittedly not on grass) but never in a slam final. Djokovic, on the other hand, he has beaten in a grass final. And even then, there may be upsets and none of these matches may happen!

But just one match at a time, Andy. Get rid of Kuku easily, please, no waste of energy.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Stircrazy wrote:
L128: Mikhail Kukushkin (KAZ) WR 58 (CH = 48 in July last year vs (3) Andy Murray WR 3
If the ATP site still has a head-to-head section, I can't bloody find it on the revamped version!

Tracked it down! You have to go to Player/Player home, scroll down until you get to the H2H of two random players shown, click on the magnifying glass at the side of the first player and insert the name of one of the players you want, then click on the magnifying glass at the side of the other player and insert the name of the other player you want, then click on "show Head2Head detail" to get the detail, THEN click on event breakdown. . . and it STILL doesn't show the damn surface!

So intuitive. . . NOT!!!

savva0122 · Intermediate Club Player

Novak's draw is tricky but unless he stumbles first round don't see him having too many problems. Kohlschreiber first round is a tough one
Novak's possible route:

1st round Kohlscreiber
2nd round Hewitt
3rd round Tomic
4th round Anderson
QF Nishikori
SF warwinka
F Murray

Biggest issue for Andy for me will be Fed in the SF- if Fed gets that far he will be tought to beat.

But I'd go for an Andy - Novak final, but not picking a winner there!

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Madeline wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
L128: Mikhail Kukushkin (KAZ) WR 58 (CH = 48 in July last year vs (3) Andy Murray WR 3
If the ATP site still has a head-to-head section, I can't bloody find it on the revamped version!

Tracked it down! You have to go to Player/Player home, scroll down until you get to the H2H of two random players shown, click on the magnifying glass at the side of the first player and insert the name of one of the players you want, then click on the magnifying glass at the side of the other player and insert the name of the other player you want, then click on "show Head2Head detail" to get the detail, THEN click on event breakdown. . . and it STILL doesn't show the damn surface!
So intuitive. . . NOT!!!

Got it! Thanks, Mad, but, as you say, what a performance. I therefore unhesitatingly recommend Steve G's site, which does things as the ATP used to (with access right there, on the front page! ), as the first port of call for such matters! wink

vohor · Grand Slam Champion

savva0122 wrote:

But I'd go for an Andy - Novak final

Ditto smile

With same outcome as 2013 biggrin

He put 77 years of history to bed then; doing the same to a mere losing streak of 8 against Nole this time will seem easy peasy in comparison...

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Stircrazy wrote:
Got it! Thanks, Mad, but, as you say, what a performance. I therefore unhesitatingly recommend Steve G's site, which does things as the ATP used to (with access right there, on the front page! ), as the first port of call for such matters!

Thanks, I've bookmarked it. They DO show the surface, too. Only problem I see is that they include Challengers, which the official ATP don't.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Bit of interest in this article about Andy's working with a psychiatrist and how it's helped:

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-3141802/Andy-Murray-raring-psychiatrist-board-help-prepare-Wimbledon-pressure.html

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Great article. I'm no lover of the Daily Fail in general, but I have to say their tennis coverage (bar a few very silly articles) is very good and thorough.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Madeline wrote:
Great article. I'm no lover of the Daily Fail in general, but I have to say their tennis coverage (bar a few very silly articles) is very good and thorough.

Much of the same ground is covered by Barry Flatman in today's Sunday Times (interestingly, Oliver Holt was primarily a footie reporter when he was at the Times...), but a couple of slightly different - & intriguing - points (I shall refrain from commenting on the lousy grammar...):

Anger was an issue for Murray long before he set out on the tennis road. He has readily told stories against himself, revealing how he used to send the Monopoly board flying at home when things were becoming fraught and it looked like he might lose. And boyhood altercations with Jamie, his elder brother, regularly ended up with one of them requiring first aid. Yahoo! Messenger Raised Eyebrow Emoticon

[...]

"I'm coming towards the latter stages of my career," he admitted. "I hope I have still five or six more years left, but I want to make the most of it. Before I got to 500 match wins on the tour in Miami earlier this year, I hadn't thought loads about it. But when you see the players that have done that and where you could possibly get, that's motivation for me.

So I want to make sure that over the next few years I give myself the very best opportunity to win as many tournaments and matches as possible".

savva0122 · Intermediate Club Player

Interestingly, Novak has never beaten Andy on grass

TMH · Futures qualifying

He's not even taken a set.

Both their meetings were memorable matches en route to Murray winning two of the three biggest titles of his career.

BradMarx90 · County player

savva0122 wrote:
Novak's draw is tricky but unless he stumbles first round don't see him having too many problems. Kohlschreiber first round is a tough one
Novak's possible route:

1st round Kohlscreiber
2nd round Hewitt
3rd round Tomic
4th round Anderson
QF Nishikori
SF warwinka
F Murray

Biggest issue for Andy for me will be Fed in the SF- if Fed gets that far he will be tought to beat.

But I'd go for an Andy - Novak final, but not picking a winner there!

I am SO down for a Hewitt-Djokovic five-setter in which the Aussie vet wins in glorious style. Bring it on!

TMH · Futures qualifying

Murray making a meal of this. Having lead 6-4, 5-2 he's not won a game since. Kukushkin about to serve for the second set at *6-5.

Kukushkin has a mental walkabout and we go into a tie-break...

Normal service resumed as Murray takes the 'breaker 7-3.

-- Edited by TMH on Tuesday 30th of June 2015 04:15:30 PM

BradMarx90 · County player

Muzza wins 6-4 7-6 6-4.

Job done.