2015 male ranking predictions

Sim · County player

RE: 2015 male ranking predictions

Sim · County player

Some statistics on male predictions. Same rider as for female predictions; Sample only includes top 10 picks so those with few picks would probably have a higher average prediction if everyone had included every player

		Picks	Average	High	Low

1	Andy Murray	23	5	3	12
2	James Ward	23	97	75	135
3	Aljax Bedene	5	109	90	140
4	Kyle Edmund	23	128	91	193
5	Liam Broady	23	142	86	195
6	Brydan Klein	22	212	130	300
7	Dan Evans	14	212	129	365
8	Alex Ward	17	242	170	347
9	Ed Corrie	22	248	153	315
10	Dan Smethurst	15	260	180	299
12	Dan Cox	19	268	206	380
13	Marcus Willis	12	290	230	341
14	Josh Milton	3	297	285	305
16	Tom Farquharson	2	301	291	310
17	Farris Gosea	2	313	306	320
18	Josh Ward-Hibbert	3	342	290	410
19	Cameron Norrie	1	345	345	345
20	Luke Bambridge	1	348	348	348

paulisi · Tennis legend

Sim - any plans to provide an update soon?

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

I think the Bedene factor makes it unfair I'm sure we would all have Bedene in there I think it's fair not to include him as he wasn't in at year start.

indiana · Tennis legend

Everyone had the chance to include Bedene, change their entry if they wanted, having maybe not initially considered him. He was openly discussed in this thread when some folk did include him. And even folk who missed that were no doubt mostly aware that he might become British from other discussions.

I was one who chose not to include him. I made a misjudgement about how quickly his citizenship would come through, as I made a misjudgement as to how quickly Laura Robson would err so far not come back to competition after injury, which may also cost me.

We were predicting the END of year GB top 10 placings and world rankings with many variales to consider and no qualification as to anyone's start of year situation.

No unfairness in my book. Indeed I said at entry time that I had no issue if Bedene did become British and count for some folk, who made a choice anyone could have made.

Good luck to them, bah :)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Jaggy1876 wrote:
I think the Bedene factor makes it unfair I'm sure we would all have Bedene in there I think it's fair not to include him as he wasn't in at year start.

Sour grapes ?? smile smile

This discussion took place at the start of the year and people said the Bedene thing was no different from the selecting someone who then got horribly injured or retired, there was no certainty it'd go through but a reasonable chance, it was one of the vagueries of tennis - something that you took a punt on.

In many ways, the Bedene thing is MORE fair than the others because it was all in the open that he was thinking about changing.

When Golding suddenly 'retired' that scuppered a lot of people because it came out of the blue.

Some people had Ash and Jack Carpenter and then, quite fairly, changed right before the deadline when there were rumours they'd be retiring.

Many people this year picked Ellie Dean - now that's a big punt - might pay off but if she doesn't play a single match, they can't ask for that pick to be canceled just because she didn't play.

It's all part of the game. smile

Add: for some inexplicable reason confuse I didn't see Indy's post above saying the exact same thing, and better expressed, from 6 hours ago ! (What were you doing up at 3 in the morning. Mr Indiana???)

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Monday 6th of April 2015 08:39:26 AM

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

I disagree think about it he is only British from this week therefore previous ranking points shouldn't stand. Totally different thing from injuries and retrials.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Take me it of the competition if you want to play it like that not interested if that's the case

Floody78 · Junior player

It's not a case of playing it like that, it was in the rules.

Those that took the gamble, myself included, took it with the full knowledge that it might cost us.

indiana · Tennis legend

I prefer to play by the rules that just about anyone who read and was concentrating, undersood / understands. These include end of year ranking and no mention of just ranking points won as a Brit, which could have been added at the time of the initial Bedene discussion, but wasn't.

Jaggy, do you want your ball back too ? :)

Sim · County player

Sorry, I haven't updated the tables before, but here is the first update this year, and it includes Aljaz as a GB player. I am going to take his position straight from the ATP rankings, so yes at the end of the year he will have some points from before he became a Brit, but as has been pointed out his possible inclusion was well documented on this thread before Jan 1st. I have no bias as I did not include him in my top 10! Apologies to those who do not like it but it seems the right approach to me, and does appear to have the majority vote

Points Table

Jaffa	59
Josh	58
Forbesman	57
Coup Droit	56
Kaseldop	56
Ratty	56
Koriban	55
Floody78	53
Sim	52
Spud	52
Bob in Spain	51
Salmon	51
SMC1809	50
Beefydeedz	49
Jaggy1876	48
Kundalini	48
LouieG	48
BenW	47
Indiana	46
LordBrownof	45
tommymac	44
Paulsi	43
Freerider	42
Mirambee	41
Bright Spark	39

Full table is here: http://www.britishtennis.net/predictions/2015%20Male%20Ranking%20predictions.htm

Sim · County player

End of the clay court season so here are the updated standings for the predictions, with a new leader;

Points Table

Kaseldop	56
Ratty	55
Jaggy1876	54
Floody78	53
Forbesman	53
Josh	53
Jaffa	52
SMC1809	50
Bob in Spain	49
Coup Droit	49
Koriban	49
Beefydeedz	48
Sim	48
LordBrownof	47
Paulsi	47
Spud	47
Kundalini	45
Salmon	44
tommymac	44
Indiana	43
Mirambee	40
BenW	39
LouieG	37
Freerider	34
Bright Spark	32

Full table is here: http://www.britishtennis.net/predictions/2015%20Male%20Ranking%20predictions.htm

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Just worked out Id be top if Bedene wasn't included. Who don't count at the start of you remember. Thin I'm the only one who put Klein to finish higher than James W so I ll be cheering on Brydan tomorrow

I want my ball back

Sim · County player

Jaggy1876 wrote:
Just worked out Id be top if Bedene wasn't included. Who don't count at the start of you remember. Thin I'm the only one who put Klein to finish higher than James W so I ll be cheering on Brydan tomorrow

I want my ball back

Sorry Jaggy, you wouldn't be top anyway, you can't just take off Aljaz's points as all the other players beneath him move up one place in the GB rankings so that changes all the scores.

Alternative table according to Jaggy:

Kaseldop	63
Josh	56
Ratty	56
Jaggy1876	55
Forbesman	53
Jaffa	52
Spud	51
Beefydeedz	50
Koriban	49
Sim	49
Floody78	48
SMC1809	48
Indiana	47
Kundalini	47
Paulsi	46
Salmon	46
tommymac	46
Bob in Spain	42
LordBrownof	42
Mirambee	42
Coup Droit	41
BenW	40
LouieG	39
Freerider	37
Bright Spark	36

Just to be clear these scores don't count!!

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Ok fair enough I ll take the first one then