Will Andy qualify for the WTF 2014?

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

RE: Will Andy qualify for the WTF 2014?

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

Me too. I'm not sure I believe that he's not gunning for the WTF, in his interview yesterday he said that Ferrer was also trying to qualify for it and was in direct competition. To say that just after a match win must mean that qualifying is pretty high in his mind.

TMH · Futures qualifying

dougie wrote:
The gap between andy and berdych is only 220

I was referring to Berdych's gap to 9th.

indiana · Tennis legend

So we have going into this week :

5 NISHIKORI 4265 - NOT PLAYING
6 CILIC 4150 - NOT PLAYING - QUALIFIED
7 BERDYCH 4105 - IN VALENCIA - LAST COUNTER = 150 SO MAXIMUM AT THE END OF THIS WEEK = 4455
8 MURRAY 3885 - IN VALENCIA - LAST COUNTER = 90 SO MAXIMUM AT THE END OF THIS WEEK = 4295
9 FERRER 3775 - IN VALENCIA - LAST COUNTER = 90 SO MAXIMUM AT THE END OF THIS WEEK = 4185
10 RAONIC 3750 - IN BASEL - LAST COUNTER = 0 SO MAXIMUM AT THE END OF THIS WEEK = 4250
11 DIMITROV 3555 - IN BASEL - LAST COUNTER = 90 SO MAXIMUM AT THE END OF THIS WEEK = 3965

Federer, Nadal and Wawrinka are all in Basel, so may be there as a barrier to Raonic and Dimitrov if they progress to the later stages. Djokovic is not playing this week.

philwrig · Hall of fame

Andy looks absolutely toast physically, if he does make the WTF's and I sincerely hope he does, he's likely to be running on fumes at that stage.

imoen · Admin: Moderator+Tennis Legend

Helen40 wrote:
Me too. I'm not sure I believe that he's not gunning for the WTF, in his interview yesterday he said that Ferrer was also trying to qualify for it and was in direct competition. To say that just after a match win must mean that qualifying is pretty high in his mind.

I took it to mean he is fully aware that top 8 gives two things 1) a better seeding at the AO and 2) entry to the WTF. With Rafa likely to be out of the WTF qualifying for that isn't actually top 8 so I think Andy's just declaring where his priorities are (top 8). I don't think he believes he can win the WTF this year and he's said many a time that he doesn't see the point of entering a tournament unless he believes he could win it so it makes sense that the motivator is next year's AO rather than entry to a final tournament where he's unlikely to get out of the group stages.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

philwrig wrote:
Andy looks absolutely toast physically, if he does make the WTF's and I sincerely hope he does, he's likely to be running on fumes at that stage.

I doubt he'll be the only one in that situation though. There will be a few others struggling as well.

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

Bob in Spain wrote:
philwrig wrote:
Andy looks absolutely toast physically, if he does make the WTF's and I sincerely hope he does, he's likely to be running on fumes at that stage.
I doubt he'll be the only one in that situation though. There will be a few others struggling as well.

True, but at least they get a week's rest this year after Paris.

philwrig · Hall of fame

Bob in Spain wrote:
philwrig wrote:
Andy looks absolutely toast physically, if he does make the WTF's and I sincerely hope he does, he's likely to be running on fumes at that stage.
I doubt he'll be the only one in that situation though. There will be a few others struggling as well.

True, but fitness used to be one of Andy's strengths, I'd of backed him in previous years against anyone in that area, but this year has been a real struggle. I think we'll end up with a strange WTF, some out of form players but fresh, others in form but totally knackered, and then oh yes Fed, who might just win the whole thing.

EddietheEagle · County player

Prospects for another 'Davydenko' year then.

indiana · Tennis legend

As has been said a few times, it seems quite understandable ( although by his own quotes strangely mysterious to himself ) that Andy's fitness has been down this year following his back surgery. I doubt he had anything like his normal close season and I would think that plays a big part for the rest of the year. Not something that a short term fix can really work too much with such as a training block after Wimbledon.

The week off that we now have again after the Paris Masters will help Andy and others. And while he may or may not get wins at the WTF if he qualifies, just depriving someone else of a big points scoring opportunity could help re being top 8 for the Australian Open.

Re general qualifying for the WTF, clearly still very tight between Andy, Ferrer and Raonic in positions 8 to 10, so even if no 9 is the qualifying mark it very much looks like work still to be done. Nishikori will surely be fine, but Berdych may still need a bit more yet.

-- Edited by indiana on Tuesday 21st of October 2014 05:03:49 PM

The Optimist · ATP qualifying

Do players get points in the round robin phase of the WTF or just in the knockout matches?

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

The Optimist wrote:
Do players get points in the round robin phase of the WTF or just in the knockout matches?

From memory, it is 200 points per round robin win, 400 more if you win your semi and then another 500 for winning the final. A maximum of 1500 if you win the tournament and have won all your round robin matches.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Your memory is good, that's right.

scottie1 · Futures level

berdych out first round