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RE: Andy mutually ends partnership with Ivan


Am I alone in being genuinely baffled by this saga. He supposedly split with Ivan because he didn't think he was getting enough out of their arrangement but over two months later he still hasn't made an appointment and his season continues to drift. I just don't understand what is going on here.

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Must say I'm not baffled at all.

This does appear to have been a genuinely mutually parting of the ways, and not one that Andy really wanted ( if Ivan had been able to commit more ) or had planned for, maybe always hoping that for instance Ivan's refound love for competitive tennis was a phase or it would not be so time restricting.

It seemingly having become clear that they could not resolve the time issues satisfactorily they split, and Andy has seemingly gone through a process of finding a new coach. All that involved clearly I don't know, but he has not rushed into anything.

After last year's Wimbledon, with getting to grips with that and maybe subsequent motivational issues, and his back surgery, this year was looking anyway a time to regroup. While clearly he only has so many years, there did seem quite a lot of thought in previous forum discussions that folk weren't looking for a huge deal this year, and have not been particularly disappointed.

Now, possibly, after initial disappointment at the break with Ivan, Andy seems to be now more seriously looking ahead again, and I have liked some of what I have heard from him about winning more Slams. The fire maybe just needed time to rebuild.

He appears confident that he will have someone in place after RG, saying that he is clear who he wants it to be, although details need ironed out. This is an important appointment for moving on with the next phase of his career, and to me it seems to have been handled fine.


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His mum's his coach.

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Mauresmo it is.

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Mon Dieu !

Certainly be very interesting again, and it could be good again.

Andy has got his hitting partner, he's got his fitness team, and some of the analysis I've heard lately from women ( particularly French women ! ) has been very impressive ( not that there's any reason it shouldn't be ). Let's say, more impressive than Greg Rusedski !

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BeefyDeedz wrote:

Mauresmo it is.


  And after all the bluster & denial of speculation in the press, too! disbelief  Not sure she's the right person to move him on to the next phase of his career, as Indy put it.   Hope she proves me wrong!



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I could have sworn she denied she was in the running. But then, I suppose she could hardly admit it. Well, we'll see how it works out. I hope she can get him to put his first serve over the net - if he is going to fault, I'd rather it was long than in the middle of the net. Makes me suspect he is doing something fundamentally wrong, ball toss too far forward perhaps.

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That looks a very good point, Madeline ( these women, eh ! ).

If you have a proper, grooved, consistent serve, when you miss it, you should be missing it fairly narrowly, not dumping it into the middle / bottom of the net. As you suggest, that's just fundamentally gone wrong.

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No idea if Amelie is a good choice or not. In this instance, I think he was wise to go for a former player with experience of slam finals etc and also someone who took the match to their opponent (given his tendency to revert to being too passive at times). Personally, I'd have gone for Martina Navratilova, had she been available. I'm not convinced a pure coach could provide him with sufficient inspiration at this stage of his career.

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Madeline wrote:

I could have sworn she denied she was in the running.


Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.



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Can I be the first to say that I haven't a clue whether Amelie will be a good coach for Andy?

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Ratty wrote:

Can I be the first to say that I haven't a clue whether Amelie will be a good coach for Andy?


No. Kundalini beat you by two posts wink



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I always loved Amelie as a player, but her fragility under pressure is something I'd question.

She's Andy's choice so I look forward to seeing what she brings to his game and welcome the fact he's got someone on side.

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Ah, Ratty, I recall your sceptical comments at the time of Andy's hiring of Lendl, basically as to why speculate because who knew and you didn't see that a coach made much difference anyway.

Hmm...

Well, at least you now seem to acknowledge there is such a thing as a 'good coach' for Andy.

I too am not sure about Mauresmo, but if you look back to the initial Lendl discussions at the time I think there were probably some interesting comments as to what he might bring.

Discuss, speculate and see what transpires, it's a sort of forum thing with thousands of groups on a multitude of subjects.

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It's an interesting choice and given that it has been rumoured for so long I remain baffled that it took till now to confirm it.

Is it a good move? What will she bring to Andy's game?

Two questions to which I can only say I haven't got a bloody clue. We will have to wait and see.

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