Just to respond to the question that the title of this thread poses....
All parties, The Murrays, WSM sport and Aberdeen Council want this to happen again. I think some of the papers are making more of this than there actually was.
* The AC suits Andys schedule. He said that. * He personally wants big events in Scotand and even though he would rather have an ATP event he knows that is someway off. In the menatime even if he got into the top 10 he would play the AC. * The format may change. Even the ticket prices may change but the Murrays are on some sort of quest to bring tennis to the forefront in Scotland. * Scotland v ????? Andy was asked about possible future oppenents specifically Nadal and Andy replied "Im sure he would love to come and play....just have to talk to him...."
I would go and watch a 'Scotland v Europe' team. I feel the mixed doubles would have to make way for another singles match.
Could be something like this...
Europe Team - Rafael Nadal, Novak Djokovic, Michael Llodra (D), Mary Pearce Scotland Team - Andy Murray, Jamie Baker, Jamie Murray(D), Elena Baltacha
Saturday :
Baker v Nadal Girls Junior Singles Challenge (1 set) A Murray / J Murray v Nadal / Llodra Baltacha v Pearce Murray v Djokovic
Sunday :
J Murray / Baltacha v Llodra / Pearce Jamie Baker v Djokovic Boys Junior Singles Challenge (1 set) Murray v Nadal
I have just picked Llodra and Pearce as examples.........
You call me a Troll, well then you are a Bafoon. I HAVE GIVEN UP HERE. IM ONLY HAVIN A JOKE, I CONTRIBUTE MORE TO THIS SITE ABOUT ANDY WHICH IF YOU RECALL IS THE PLAYER THE FORUM IS DEDICATED TO, WHEREAS YOU WOULD RATHER PISS ABOUT LICKIN BOGGS ARSE. who cares if i dont watch boggo
ranking tells and i have seen his results to know that i know he wont be big. its very sad people like yourselve john that like to fantasise about people like boggo being number one. get a life. anything i post is fairly intersting controversial and the articles i find and topics are a far stretch from the rubbish you post
what would you rather , a brilliant find on andy be it his style , what others think his matches , etc, or what you 2 see as GREAT FUN EXCITING a boring piece about boggo and other small time charlies in tennis which you write yourselves ex
Boggo 25k challenger- oh i cant wait to see boggo get to top 20
and **** like oh boggo has beaten alxi leceiainnov of belarus and countless other boring rubbishy articles that you pleasure yourselves with
The fact that i actually made an apology and joked showing it was a laugh is testament to who i am, and how im not so serious about everything and want to brighten up things, but NO!!!!!!!!!!!! WAIT TROLLOP JOHN WONT HAVE ANYTHING SAID ABOUT BOGGO, HEARD OF A CRITIC, OR DO YOU GO ROUND CHASING OTHER CRITICS CALLING THEM A TROLL
The fact is you cant take criticism about a player, you dream of getting home and posting in a topic about a 1k cahllenger which i have absolutely no interest in seeing. Then you attack me calling me a troll becasue u feel that just becasue i dont monitor a second rate player's (who is boring) progress i cant make my own choice to whether i feel he is going anywhere or not.
This is a andy murray forum- not boggo or anyone else. If you noticed i rarely post in challenger stuff as i have no interest , so why is it that when you post in an andy murray forum in the andy murray section you talk about boggo as if its his website and attack people for not liking him.
You are a bit sad i think and cherish these minor players as if they are the ends and means.
Imagine an outsider
who came to this website - DO you think they would look to talk about a nobody like boggo on an andy murray page. they wouldnt dream of it and if they came across your ramblings they would get out quick becasue its not appealing for someone worlwide to read stuf about an english player who is not going to make it. fine im not sayin you cant post about boggo, but what i am saying is YOU HANDLE YOUR EMTOTIONS WITH BOGGO BADLY IN A WAY THAT YOU SEEM TO LOVE THE BOGGO MAN , AND SOMEONE WHO IF ATTACKED YOU WILL PROTECT BOGGO
DONT MAKE ME LAUGH- you talk badly of andy then obviously it will be defended but on his board- you talk of boggo on andys forum and you dont expect someone to have never heard of him, never watched him or like me seen him heard of him but dislike him in a way that im saying he wont make it and he isnt a hope FOR BRITISH TENNIs
GET A LIFE YOU SAD LITTLE TROLLS, have had enough of this
i want somewhere where poeple can be upbeat about andy murray and have good debates share info on andy. talk about latest news , his style his game even his haircut
but i dont want peple who are more intersted in a lower ranked player, posting info on that player on andys main page and attacking people calling them trolls if they dislike that player.
this site is progresing but people like yourselves bring it down because your view is very narrow and your analysis of a situation is poor. i look at some topics and think how boring and fine that is your topics in british men discussion BUT DONT BRING YOUR BORE TO THE ANDY MURRAY SECTION
Yesyesbadboy, the only reason we mentioned Boggo in this section is because we're discussing the future of the Aberdeen Cup. In a couple of years time, maybe even next year if Henman can't be persuaded to play, Boggo will be the man facing Murray on both days if the format stays the same.
Most of the discussion in this section is Andy Murray related...every thread is about him, his matches or schedule etc
It's good to have a bit of controversy initiated into discussions, can make for a more interesting debate, however there is a difference between doing that and winding people up by deliberately attacking a player - Boggo in this instance. Many people here [like me] are big fans of him and getting at him is a sore point as he alreadys cops a lot of unwarranted stick from the press. That's why posters [including me] responded as we did.
Yesyesbadboy, you are most welcome to stay on this site, you've provided quite a few interesting news items which we wouldn't have found otherwise and it is good to have some controversy in debates [as you say it does add more interest]. However, that does have to be measured and I would also be most grateful if you deferred from insulting other members like John. Calling people sad, idiots etc etc does nothing for the community of the site and will only turn people against you. If you disagree with someone, that's ok - message boards are for debate but it's best to put your case across constructively with facts rather than using emotive language.
In fairness, I've only been here a short time and I kinda assumed you were a troll. I shall take Shed's word for it that you've said something worthwhile in the past.
I think he was just annoyed at your Boggo-bashing, I know you didn't mean to but you did go a little overboard with it and and I said it touches a sore point
anyway back to the topic of the thread.......
what does everyone think about the idea of a mini-DC match over the weekend for the Aberdeen Cup - so lets say GB v Spain:
If we had Murray and Henman it could go
Sat:
Henman v Robredo
Cavaday v top Spanish girl
Auckland/J Murray v Ferrer/Lopez
Keothavong v Medina Garrigues
Murray v Nadal
Sun:
Cox v top Spanish boy
Henman v Nadal
J Murray/Baltacha v Lopez/Ruano Pascual
Murray v Robredo
Now that would be a cracker of a match...we'd win both junior matches, Murray and Henman could win 1 each - maybe 1 can upset Nadal on a fast indoor surface, Medina Garrugues would beat Keothavong [maybe Bally would be a better choice on a fast court] but the doubles would be all to play for. Could come down to Murray-Robredo on the Sunday night
wow wat an idea david... would be really good V America aswell
American players could include eg- Blake, Roddick, Fish, and there top boys and girls
would also be cool V France , , such as Gasquet , Monfils , Grojean
david i think you should suggest it somehow lol, we could go and watch it ... but if it was V America im sorry to say that i may have to support Blake hehe
The only thing that confuses me about this thread is why David continues to give this guy sensible responses. yesyes, you make no sense. You reckon that you are "entitled" to not like a player and have an opinion on whether he will "make it" even though you don't follow his results or matches. This forum is for all of British tennis including the lower levels players and if that infuriates you so much maybe you shouldn't be here??
You claim to want sensible debate yet then go on the rampage calling people idiots and stupid etc. I have no problem with constructive criticism, but that is not what you offered, you simply spouted abuse towards a player you freely admit to knowing nothing about.
Can't even be bothered to entertain you with any further response.
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You call me a Troll, well then you are a Bafoon. I HAVE GIVEN UP HERE. IM ONLY HAVIN A JOKE, I CONTRIBUTE MORE TO THIS SITE ABOUT ANDY WHICH IF YOU RECALL IS THE PLAYER THE FORUM IS DEDICATED TO, WHEREAS YOU WOULD RATHER PISS ABOUT LICKIN BOGGS ARSE. who cares if i dont watch boggo
ranking tells and i have seen his results to know that i know he wont be big. its very sad people like yourselve john that like to fantasise about people like boggo being number one. get a life. anything i post is fairly intersting controversial and the articles i find and topics are a far stretch from the rubbish you post
what would you rather , a brilliant find on andy be it his style , what others think his matches , etc, or what you 2 see as GREAT FUN EXCITING a boring piece about boggo and other small time charlies in tennis which you write yourselves ex
Boggo 25k challenger- oh i cant wait to see boggo get to top 20
and **** like oh boggo has beaten alxi leceiainnov of belarus and countless other boring rubbishy articles that you pleasure yourselves with
The fact that i actually made an apology and joked showing it was a laugh is testament to who i am, and how im not so serious about everything and want to brighten up things, but NO!!!!!!!!!!!! WAIT TROLLOP JOHN WONT HAVE ANYTHING SAID ABOUT BOGGO, HEARD OF A CRITIC, OR DO YOU GO ROUND CHASING OTHER CRITICS CALLING THEM A TROLL
The fact is you cant take criticism about a player, you dream of getting home and posting in a topic about a 1k cahllenger which i have absolutely no interest in seeing. Then you attack me calling me a troll becasue u feel that just becasue i dont monitor a second rate player's (who is boring) progress i cant make my own choice to whether i feel he is going anywhere or not.
This is a andy murray forum- not boggo or anyone else. If you noticed i rarely post in challenger stuff as i have no interest , so why is it that when you post in an andy murray forum in the andy murray section you talk about boggo as if its his website and attack people for not liking him.
You are a bit sad i think and cherish these minor players as if they are the ends and means.
Imagine an outsider
who came to this website - DO you think they would look to talk about a nobody like boggo on an andy murray page. they wouldnt dream of it and if they came across your ramblings they would get out quick becasue its not appealing for someone worlwide to read stuf about an english player who is not going to make it. fine im not sayin you cant post about boggo, but what i am saying is YOU HANDLE YOUR EMTOTIONS WITH BOGGO BADLY IN A WAY THAT YOU SEEM TO LOVE THE BOGGO MAN , AND SOMEONE WHO IF ATTACKED YOU WILL PROTECT BOGGO
DONT MAKE ME LAUGH- you talk badly of andy then obviously it will be defended but on his board- you talk of boggo on andys forum and you dont expect someone to have never heard of him, never watched him or like me seen him heard of him but dislike him in a way that im saying he wont make it and he isnt a hope FOR BRITISH TENNIs
GET A LIFE YOU SAD LITTLE TROLLS, have had enough of this
i want somewhere where poeple can be upbeat about andy murray and have good debates share info on andy. talk about latest news , his style his game even his haircut
but i dont want peple who are more intersted in a lower ranked player, posting info on that player on andys main page and attacking people calling them trolls if they dislike that player.
this site is progresing but people like yourselves bring it down because your view is very narrow and your analysis of a situation is poor. i look at some topics and think how boring and fine that is your topics in british men discussion BUT DONT BRING YOUR BORE TO THE ANDY MURRAY SECTION
-- Edited by yesyesbadboy at 18:20, 2006-11-30
-- Edited by yesyesbadboy at 18:26, 2006-11-30
Good lord. What are you doing on the Jack Daniels at half past 6 in the evening?
Having Scotland playing against a major nation would be coup. but are players such as nadal and blake are prepared to play an exhibiton event towards the end of the season. also, you would have to think of apperance fees as well which would be alot.
Off the AC, you know the appearance fees do they really allow players to accept fees in order to play in a tournament, even though there is prize money available to the players!