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Post Info TOPIC: Queens rd1 - Murray v Tipsarevic
Who wins ? [21 vote(s)]

Andy in 2 no probs
52.4%
Andy cant get his 1st serve still wins in 3
33.3%
Tips 'bugs' Andys 'Robinson' wins in 2
9.5%
Tips flukes it 3
4.8%


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RE: Queens rd1 - Murray v Tipsarevic


I think the Queens points have already come off last week, so barring anyone behind him in the rankings having a great week, it shouldn't cost him much.

I think what Andy needs to do is sit down and look at some video of how he was playing last year and how he's playing now and have a look at what the difference is. I think he's right in that it looks worse than it is just now because if he had found a way to win a couple of those matches which he should have won in the last 6 weeks (Monfils and RG, Ferrer at Barcelona) then it's not so bad looking but because he's lost those matches it's looking pretty depressing. At the moment his confidence is shot, he's questioning himself on court and it's affecting his overall play.

All the tools are there for someone to work with, I just hope that he finds someone soon to put it all together.

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Tennisman wrote:


who cares!!!!


The vast majority of members on this messageboard are keen supporters of Andy. We care.


We know he also has a lot to learn. We have faith with him and over the next few years he will mature and grow and improve.


Please feel free to post here 'tennisman' but any if you have any 'Andy Bashing' to do please do that on the Beeb board. Not here.


Delighted if you stick around and post constructively.


The moderators will delete posts if they are deemed to not be in the spirit of this web site.


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hey tennisman, just leave if ur gunna have that attitude

rob

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With such a strong mind I cant imagine Andy taking the criticism of 'a good coach', if he didnt agree with what he was told he would fire him again!


 



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mjd wrote:

With such a strong mind I cant imagine Andy taking the criticism of 'a good coach', if he didnt agree with what he was told he would fire him again!
 




Disagree - I think the next choice will be the right choice. I think the main problem with the last two coaches is that he didn't have any say when he was with Alvarez as the Sanchez Casal Academy paired them up, and then the thing with him and Petchey was there was no clear coach/player boundaries. I think that was extremely detrimental and meant that they couldn't have the typical relationship where they could disagree, argue and then move on because they were so close. When you are staying with your coach's family, playing with their children and stuff I imagine it makes it difficult to disagree because they are more a friend than a coach.

I think the next coach will be one where the boundaries are very clearly defined and one who has been well vetted before hand. Last year, Petch was hired while Andy was having good results. They jumped the gun, they saw instant results and though how perfect it would be and, in reality they should have taken a little time to work things out and see how they were going and whether they actually suited each other.

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I made my post higher up the page in the extreme disappointment immediately after the match ended and then had to go out. I was afraid I was going to be jumped on for my comments but I see most people agree.

What is really bothering me is that he seems to have lost his eagerness and drive. All we can do is keep the faith in his natural talent and hope he will get his head together soon, and I am pretty sure a coach who can help him analyse his opponents and work out a game plan will go a long way towards that. But he needs someone soon, because at the moment he seems to be drifting aimlessly, and though it hasn't affected his ranking much yet, it will soon do so dramatically if there is no change - it is not just the Wimbledon points, in the second half of the year he has so many points to defend.

Looking on the bright side, if he can get himself sorted by the end of this year, at the start of next year, apart from San Jose, he has virtually nowt to defend!

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His confidence seems to have gone. I don't think he expected to plateau like this and it's bothering him a lot. I think as soon as a coach comes on board he'll get it sorted. He just needs to get some matches under his belt and let it go from there - at the moment he's not giving off the cocky air that he knows he can live with these guys anymore.

I don't think there is anything terminally wrong with his game by any stretch and it's very normal to have these dips but I think we all have such high expectations for him that it's hard to watch him flounder like this and we want to see him get back on track sooner rather than later because we can all see what's going to get written and said about him if he doesn't turn it around soon.

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because we can all see what's going to get written and said about him if he doesn't turn it around soon.

That's my main worry about him, whilst I am disappointed about the dip in form, I'm not too concerned about it (yet) but I am worried that he's going to read bad things and that will knock his confidence further. Hopefully the people around him give him NO access to anything written about him one way or the other but he won't be able to help hearing some stuff.

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aria81 wrote:
because we can all see what's going to get written and said about him if he doesn't turn it around soon.
That's my main worry about him, whilst I am disappointed about the dip in form, I'm not too concerned about it (yet) but I am worried that he's going to read bad things and that will knock his confidence further. Hopefully the people around him give him NO access to anything written about him one way or the other but he won't be able to help hearing some stuff.




He is bound to hear it. Interviewers will throw it at him surely.

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imoen wrote:
aria81 wrote:
because we can all see what's going to get written and said about him if he doesn't turn it around soon.
That's my main worry about him, whilst I am disappointed about the dip in form, I'm not too concerned about it (yet) but I am worried that he's going to read bad things and that will knock his confidence further. Hopefully the people around him give him NO access to anything written about him one way or the other but he won't be able to help hearing some stuff.


He is bound to hear it. Interviewers will throw it at him surely.




Yup - he has to do a lot of interviews and press-conferences in the lead up to Wimbledon and all he'll hear about is how poor his form has been, was last year a fluke, why is he so unfit, and all that. I wouldn't want to be him for the next month because it will be pretty hard for him especially since there will be a lot of casual tennis 'experts' who will delight in writing about anything negative they can think of.

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Andy's post match interview at Queens:
http://www.stellaartoistennis.com/news/transcripts/murray614.pdf

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