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Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Girls: 2025 Wimbledon, grass (Week 28)

9vicman · Futures qualifying

Mimi is not liking the way Julieta plays. She's often getting caught a little flat footed particuarly when Julieta whips her forehand cross court. I think generally she's struggling with the various spins, and often just punting the ball back down the middle. But doing well to hang on in there.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Mimi fought really well, she applied herself really well

But in terms of the tennis, there was no real difference between her match and Hannah's

Both lost a set to Pareja really easily

Both were a break down in the other set, fought to come back

But today Julieta threw in a whole load of sudden UEs, and hence Mimi got back in that set

But the third set was like the second, without the choke

Well done to Pareja, this is only her third grand slam, I think, and her first little trip on grass - an amazing performance - and maybe the best to come

Bravo to Pohankova too who has had to overcome some tricky matches (I saw a fair bit of her match in three sets against young Leme da Silva) but has shown some excellent tennis too, and real intensity

The best two players have made the final

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

I guess Mika, Hannah, Flora and Mimi can all say that at least they lost to the finalists

9vicman · Futures qualifying

It's interesting, in the Wimbledon warm-ups, Mimi beat Alycia Parks, Katarzyna Kawa, Ana Konjuh and Katie Volynets, but today always looked second best to Pareja. I can't imagine that any of the senior players would have played like Pareja, but Mimi couldn't impose her game at all

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

9vicman wrote:
It's interesting, in the Wimbledon warm-ups, Mimi beat Alycia Parks, Katarzyna Kawa, Ana Konjuh and Katie Volynets, but today always looked second best to Pareja. I can't imagine that any of the senior players would have played like Pareja, but Mimi couldn't impose her game at all

But Pareja may well have beaten Parks, Kawa etc even more easily -

After all, she did make the SFs of the WTA 250 in Bogota - which is miles more that Mimi has done

And Pareja has also beaten Kat Kawa, as well as Léolia Jeanjean and Patricia Tig and Maria Uribe etc - which are all top names

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

In fact, if you want a direct comparison:

Julieta beat Kawa 7-5 6-2

Mimi beat Kawa 4-6 7-5 6-2

So Julieta won far more easily

indiana · Tennis legend

Tbf, it looks as if CD has been highlighting Julieta for much of the thread.

You can lead other forum users to water, you can't make them drink it

DavidC · Tennis legend

SF

Mia Pohankova (SVK JWR30 / WTA465) d. Vendula Valdmannova (CZE JWR29/WTA663) 6-4 6-0
(6) Julieta Pareja (USA JWR7/WTA340) d. Mingge Xu ( JWR46/WTA318) 6-2 6-7(7) 6-4

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Mia Pohankova (SVK JWR30 / WTA465) v (6) Julieta Pareja (USA JWR7/WTA340)

9vicman · Futures qualifying

Coup Droit wrote:
In fact, if you want a direct comparison:

Julieta beat Kawa 7-5 6-2

Mimi beat Kawa 4-6 7-5 6-2

So Julieta won far more easily

Kawa actually beat Julieta 7-5 6-2 in the semifinals of Bogota if we're going down the direct comparison route.

And I wasn't suggesting that Julieta wasn't the player to beat. But that having had a number of big wins on grass, it was interesting that Mimi struggled at Wimbledon: she squeezed past Thea Frodin in the first round and struggled today. But then again she also lost to Amarni Banks 6-2 6-1 during the grass court season so has been up and down.

9vicman · Futures qualifying

And if I was being pedantic, Maria Uribe (Julieta's first round victim in Bogota) is ranked 1200.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

9vicman wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
In fact, if you want a direct comparison:

Julieta beat Kawa 7-5 6-2

Mimi beat Kawa 4-6 7-5 6-2

So Julieta won far more easily
Kawa actually beat Julieta 7-5 6-2 in the semifinals of Bogota if we're going down the direct comparison route.
And I wasn't suggesting that Julieta wasn't the player to beat. But that having had a number of big wins on grass, it was interesting that Mimi struggled at Wimbledon: she squeezed past Thea Frodin in the first round and struggled today. But then again she also lost to Amarni Banks 6-2 6-1 during the grass court season so has been up and down.

You are quite right - many apologies - the others were wins, but she lost to Para

Very sorry

And I wasn't suggesting that Pareja was the one to beat

That wasn't my point

My point was that because Mimi has a number of big wins recently a lot of people had been putting a lot of store by it, without noting that a lot of the other girls (not just Pareja) had also had a number of big wins

(Emerson beat Ruzic a couple of weeks ago on grass, who is WTA 91, for instance. Julieta beat Jeanjean who is WTA 96 - on clay, true, but that is by far Jeanjean's best surface)

I think we focus very much on our players, and don't look at the others with the same intensity, that was my point

Again, sorry for the error

Var · Futures qualifying

Coup Droit wrote:
9vicman wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
In fact, if you want a direct comparison:

Julieta beat Kawa 7-5 6-2

Mimi beat Kawa 4-6 7-5 6-2

So Julieta won far more easily
Kawa actually beat Julieta 7-5 6-2 in the semifinals of Bogota if we're going down the direct comparison route.
And I wasn't suggesting that Julieta wasn't the player to beat. But that having had a number of big wins on grass, it was interesting that Mimi struggled at Wimbledon: she squeezed past Thea Frodin in the first round and struggled today. But then again she also lost to Amarni Banks 6-2 6-1 during the grass court season so has been up and down.
You are quite right - many apologies - the others were wins, but she lost to Para
Very sorry
And I wasn't suggesting that Pareja was the one to beat
That wasn't my point
My point was that because Mimi has a number of big wins recently a lot of people had been putting a lot of store by it, without noting that a lot of the other girls (not just Pareja) had also had a number of big wins
(Emerson beat Ruzic a couple of weeks ago on grass, who is WTA 91, for instance. Julieta beat Jeanjean who is WTA 96 - on clay, true, but that is by far Jeanjean's best surface)
I think we focus very much on our players, and don't look at the others with the same intensity, that was my point
Again, sorry for the error

No worries CD. You were right to flag Pareja. however Mimi is British and Welsh! Will always be flying the flag for Mimi. So apologies in adbvance.

9vicman · Futures qualifying

Thanks CD. And I agree with what you are saying above. It reminds me when we refer to 'British collapses' as if it is only a British phenomenon because we don't look at other players/nationalities under the same microscope.

For me, as someone who hadn't seen Mimi's pre Wimbledon wins, I was surprised at how much she struggled to adapt yesterday. But maybe I should have focused more on the qualities that Julieta brings, still unbeaten on grass. And it is easier for Mimi to have a free hit against a Top 100 player than the pressure of a junior semifinal against a very tricky opponent.

Emerson Jones is in a slightly different situation. Focusing on senior events, and coming back to try and win a first Slam title that has eluded her, puts a different kind of pressure on you. But then Pohankova, who beat her, is a class player herself. Unseeded because she plays so few junior events, it wasn't really a surprise when she beat Mika in the first round.

But particularly at this stage of a player's career, results are up and down as they develop their games. I should enjoy the wins of our players and accept the losses. They are moving in the right direction.