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Julia Carrot · All-time great

RE: Boys & Girls: 2025 French Open, clay (Week 23)

simon381 · Lower Club Player

Still no sets for the juniors. Allegra lost the first 6-2 and Hannah lost the first 6-3 to a qualifier.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Well, at least Hannah has won a set

It's nothing to shout from the rooftops, but it's a start, I guess

paulisi · Tennis legend

Hannah is up a break in the third

simon381 · Lower Club Player

On paper an easy win in the end. Was she just slow at the start for those watching live?

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

simon381 wrote:
On paper an easy win in the end. Was she just slow at the start for those watching live?

Yes

She starts cautiously, a bit tight, then makes some errors, then it's even more tight, then she gets cross with herself for being tight .....

Finally, when she gets going, and the blood begins to flow, there's some nice tennis there smile

Julia Carrot · All-time great

simon381 wrote:
On paper an easy win in the end. Was she just slow at the start for those watching live?

Yes she was pretty awful for the first three games then start to show a bit of spark and served 2 great aces at some point. Was much more competitive by the end of the first set but a bit too late. She really started to look confident and like the player we know she can be during the second . I had to leave in the early part of the third but could see was the better player and had a really good chance to win. Well done hannah, delighted.

simon381 · Lower Club Player

Local 'Favourite' (??) Efremova next. Maybe the audience to contend with but she is a level above.

Hannah is already the third highest seed left in to the tournament behind her doubles partner and WR1 Emerson Jones, and the younger Kovakova who are in the other half. Lots of banana skins left though but I notice Vujovic who won the Milan Grade A 2 weeks ago, lost to a Wildcard.

-- Edited by simon381 on Monday 2nd of June 2025 11:58:53 AM

-- Edited by simon381 on Monday 2nd of June 2025 12:07:13 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

simon381 wrote:
Local 'Favourite' (??) Efremova next. Maybe the audience to contend with but she is a level above.

Efremova is remarkably persistent though - rather like a fly at a picnic

And has just won the J300 last week in Belgium (although not without a lot of problem)

And probably has a better natural clay court game than Hannah

But, yes, pverall, Hannah is a better player, IMHO

DavidC · Tennis legend

A mixed day for Allegra, who lost out in singles but claimed her first Grand Slam win in doubles

Girls R1 (L64)

(8) Hannah Klugman d. (Q) Lorena Solar Donoso (ESP) 3-6 6-3 6-1
(11) Ruien Zhang (CHN) d. Allegra Korpanec Davies 6-2 7-5

R2

(8) Hannah Klugman v (SE) Ksenia Efremova (FRA)

Girls Doubles R1 (L32)

(1) Jones/Klugman (AUS/GBR) v Bennemann/Zhenikova (GER)
Korpanec Davies/Solar Donoso (GBR/ESP) d. (WC) Baranes/Bastianelli (FRA) 6-2 2-6 [10-4]
(2) Penickova/Penickova (USA) d. Black/Fajmonova (GBR/CZE) 6-2 6-2

DavidC · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Lots of seeds falling, especially in the girls

R1 losses for both Penickova twins (Kristina won the SFs last year and is JR 3 !!!)

So the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th seeds all lost in R1 !!!

NB The 2nd, 4th and 5th seeds are all in Hannah's half .......

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Monday 2nd of June 2025 06:46:27 AM

Added to by the 3rd seed losing today. However it has to be said that the girls who beat the 2nd, 3rd and 4th seeds are all very strong, ranked in or just outside WTA500. Unfortunately the ITF favours those who play the junior events in its seeding interpolation (effectively you need to be WTA300 or better to merit a seeding), in the same way as Tennis Europe favours those who play its events over ITFs, thus creating the possibility of particularly tough round 1 matches for the seeds

DavidC · Tennis legend

Hannah is first up on court 6 tomorrow

9vicman · Futures qualifying

DavidC wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Lots of seeds falling, especially in the girls

R1 losses for both Penickova twins (Kristina won the SFs last year and is JR 3 !!!)

So the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th seeds all lost in R1 !!!

NB The 2nd, 4th and 5th seeds are all in Hannah's half .......

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Monday 2nd of June 2025 06:46:27 AM
Added to by the 3rd seed losing today. However it has to be said that the girls who beat the 2nd, 3rd and 4th seeds are all very strong, ranked in or just outside WTA500. Unfortunately the ITF favours those who play the junior events in its seeding interpolation (effectively you need to be WTA300 or better to merit a seeding), in the same way as Tennis Europe favours those who play its events over ITFs, thus creating the possibility of particularly tough round 1 matches for the seeds

I think you have to favour the ITF junior rankings for seedings unless you have an exceptional ATP/WTA ranking or it makes a mockery of the ITF junior circuit. Very few players qualify for the event on ATP/WTA rankings alone so what you're talking about is players with a high enough junior ranking that play a mixture of junior and professional events.

But agree this year's event is a little extreme. Crazy that Mia Pohankova isn't seeded and expected her to beat No. 4 seed Teodora Kostavic. Likewise Rosita Dencheva who beat the No. 2 seed is a former Top 10er now playing pro events.

But don't think you should be seeding players ranked between 450-500. And it keeps things interesting.

B00thy · Strong Club Player

I see Hannah is a set up smile

simon381 · Lower Club Player

Seemed a straightforward win by Hannah, 6-1, 6-3. Slight wobble at the start of set 2 where she was broken but on paper seemed to be in control most of the match. Quite a few double faults still...

Kovacova (seeded 10) next who has not been winning so much recently??