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JonH wrote:

I'm impressed Indy - you've got it all worked out!

What do folks think of the relative merits of keeping the rankings annual versus moving to a rolling 12 months?


 I'll let you know once I find out how much in advance of zero I'd be starting from 

Seriously,  I'd keep the year rankings - to have a 2026, 2027 etc champion. But it could be a nice addition to have a rolling 12 months ranking if folk would like that.



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indiana wrote:

If some of our doublers get their act together today ( late on with the schedule ) 4 will fairly quickly become 2 - Brittak and emmsie.

20 wins looks the swing point. There is 15 points between them. With 20 wins, emmsie would be 2nd for 40 points and Briitak 4th for 25 points - a 15 point difference and a tie on 95 points. Below 20 favours Brittak, above 20 favours emmsie.


 I haven't done the maths myself but we are now on 19 wins. Assuming Indy is right, the season long honours are between Brittak and emmsie.



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JonH wrote:
indiana wrote:

If some of our doublers get their act together today ( late on with the schedule ) 4 will fairly quickly become 2 - Brittak and emmsie.

20 wins looks the swing point. There is 15 points between them. With 20 wins, emmsie would be 2nd for 40 points and Briitak 4th for 25 points - a 15 point difference and a tie on 95 points. Below 20 favours Brittak, above 20 favours emmsie.


 I haven't done the maths myself but we are now on 19 wins. Assuming Indy is right, the season long honours are between Brittak and emmsie.


 Yep, Canda and mdewey sticking pins in British players rag dolls hasn't worked. Joking - see Canda's supportive comments from esrlier.



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JonH wrote:

I'm impressed Indy - you've got it all worked out!

What do folks think of the relative merits of keeping the rankings annual versus moving to a rolling 12 months?


 I would keep it as annual. I think there is more joy to be had by being the 202x champion than the champion of the year ending with the French Open 202x and so on



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mdewey wrote:
JonH wrote:

I'm impressed Indy - you've got it all worked out!

What do folks think of the relative merits of keeping the rankings annual versus moving to a rolling 12 months?


 I would keep it as annual. I think there is more joy to be had by being the 202x champion than the champion of the year ending with the French Open 202x and so on


 Agreed in fact! For same reasons !



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Let's see where the final score lands for the USO , and I will formally declare the points totals after that but - assuming Indy has done his maths correctly- emmsie69 appears to be our 2026 grand slam champion, following a French Open title and a USO runners up slot!

Well done, provisionally, Emmsie!

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JonH wrote:

 


these are the USO top 12 finishers:
1st 50 Jonny D (plus possible 5 points bonus)
2nd 40 Emmsie69
3rd 30 Ralfie
4th 25 Danny1312
5th 20 Jan, Brittak, Indiana, Jones (see what happened there! the temple of doom!)
9th 5 Mdewey, RainDelay, SuperT, Blie Belle

And then the bonus of 5 points for being spot on with the prediction.

I'll update the actual table later 



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So, here are the final positions, which can't change as we will land on 23 or more wins this USO.

PositionTotalNameAOFOWUSO
       
195emmsie69 55 40
290Brittak4030 20
375Danny13124010 25
472goldfish40302 
570Canda4030  
665Pierrot 1055 
756Elegant Point551  
 55The Addict 55  
950Jonny D   50
1047Brendan F40 7 
 47Vhughes40 7 
1246Mdewey401 5
1342Sliced Backhand2 40 
1440Densher  40 
 40DF40   
 40Johnny Aitch40   
 40Julia Carrot  40 
 40Spireman  40 
1930Ralfie   30
 30Telstar 30  
2120Indiana   20
 20Jan   20
 20Jones   20
 20RainDelay  155
2515RJH1962  15 
2614Blue Belle2 75
2710AB1984 10  
 10JonH 10  
 10Tanaqui 10  
308SuperT21 5
312Miriam abc2   
 2Sheddie  2 
 2Tramlines2   
 2Var2   



-- Edited by JonH on Thursday 10th of September 2026 11:33:26 AM



-- Edited by JonH on Thursday 10th of September 2026 11:38:38 AM

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Thin margins at the top as emmsie69 wins it, just from Brittak in silver and Danny1312 in bronze medal place!

V exciting and close finish and well done to all 3 and in particular to emmsie!

I will also take a look at the scores using the alternate proposed scoring system, but will need to wait until we see how many wins we land on to do that!

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Well down to emmsie      ( and my maths holds up  ) 

Good to see after she was pipped for the US Open winners title.



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Just to say, the alternate points system would have seen a top 10 like this: so Britak coming through, Pierrot and mdewey doing well and Blue Belle being significantly higher, as with others. Emmsie would have dropped a lot due to Wimbledon

Brittak
Pierrot
Mdewey
Blue Belle
Danny1312
goldfish
SuperT
The Addict
Brendan F
Miriam abc
Telstar

In essence, the alternate system rewards - accuracy over a season. But more than one bad slam and you would fall away.

The current system rewards "winning" and getting it right, whilst allowing for a bad slam maybe a little more and rewarding being a winner with extravagant shots!

Consistency v Inspiration?

Reliability versus shot making?

Clay court versus grass court?

Thoughts would be interesting and I may decide to put a vote up before year end to ask thoughts. Let me know what you think by posting below:

Current system - points allocated like in a grand prix F1 style points system, weighted more to winning and doing well in a specific slam

Alternate system - points awarded in direct line to how many wins off the winning target you predicted. Appearing to reward consistency being consistently close in all slams.

I will post the actual alternate scoring system scores when the USO is complete, and it will show the difference a little



-- Edited by JonH on Thursday 10th of September 2026 01:12:42 PM

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indiana wrote:

Well down to emmsie      ( and my maths holds up  ) 

Good to see after she was pipped for the US Open winners title.


 Yes well done emmsie!

Good contest and thanks to JonH for running it and to Indy for the analysis at the end.

Ill be gunning for gold in 2027!



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The updated roll of honour is below - Jonny D added in a year of first time winners - note the USO 25 and 26 excludes mixed doubles

 

 

WinsTitles   
 2019Best predictor 
13AOWolf, Miriamabc 
11FONo winner named 
25WWolf (2)  
24USOMiriamabc (2), MichaelD, Indiana 
 2020   
21AOBlue Belle  
9FOSuperT  
 Wno competition 
11USOSuperT (2)  
 2021   
23AOIndiana (2) 
9FOBrendan F  
40Wfoobarbaz  
32USOMiriamabc (3) 
 2022   
17AObrittak  
16FOno competition 
43WMiramabc (4) 
26USOJonH  
 2023   
20AOCoup Droit, Indiana (3)
15FOMiriamabc (5), JonH (2)
30WMiriamabc (6)  
26USOElegant Point 
 2024   
21AOElegant Point (2), goldfish
13FOmdewey  
40WIndiana (4) 
27USOIndiana (5), FlipFlops 
 2025   
28AOgoldfish (2) 
36FOIndiana (6) 
39WDF, Danten 
15USOTelstar  
 2026   
21AOElegant Point (3)  
15FOThe Addict, emmsie69
27WPierrot  
24USOJonny D  



-- Edited by JonH on Monday 14th of September 2026 04:15:46 PM



-- Edited by JonH on Monday 14th of September 2026 04:16:08 PM

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This is the new average for each event (including mixed for the USO)

Overall 23.2
AO average 20.5
FO average 15.5
W average 34.9
USO average 23.5


And here is the year by year comparison (including mixed doubles)

2019 - 73 wins
2020 - 41 wins (no Wimbledon)
2021 - 104 wins
2022 - 102 wins
2023 - 91 wins
2024 - 101 wins
2025 - 120 wins
2026 - 88 wins

88 wins represents our lowest annual haul of wins since Covid.


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Having consulted and thought, decided if it ain't really broken, don't fix it. So no change to scoring or process etc for next season.

Thats easy!

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