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Post Info TOPIC: How many British main draw wins will we get at Wimbledon 2024?
How many wins will Brits get in the main draws? [31 vote(s)]

15 or less
3.2%
16
0.0%
17
0.0%
18
0.0%
19
0.0%
20
0.0%
21
0.0%
22
0.0%
23
0.0%
24
0.0%
25
3.2%
26
6.5%
27
9.7%
28
9.7%
29
6.5%
30
9.7%
31
9.7%
32
16.1%
33
9.7%
34 or more
16.1%


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RE: How many British main draw wins will we get at Wimbledon 2024?


indiana wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

Ok start?


 Re Steven's expected win %s, our men were 1.32/3 and won 0 and our women were 2.21/4 and won 3.

So overall 3 wins against an expected 3.53. Probably actually closer to bang on if that 3.53 doesn't take out the bookies' margin?

And feels better since I thought some of these expected win figures were rather optimistic - effect of home punts on bookies' odds?


 Good stuff - Ive not had chance to see the scores yet today so havent got round to working out in my head what it all means! 



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Overdue but here is the voters list I wrote down - if I have it wrong for you and missed you off, please shout!!

25 DF

26 Bob in Spain

27 BlueBelle, JonH Comes Home

28 Jan, Nix

29 Brendan F, FlipFlops

30 goldfish, Var

31 mburnett, Miriam abc, Tanaqui, The Addict

32 Canda, Danny 1312, Deucebag, mdewey

33 Spireman, Steven, SuperT

34 Peter Too

35 Brittak

36 Strongbow

40 Indiana

44 Ralfie

31 votes in total, some people chose not to name themselves - if that was you and you would like to unveil your vote, please do say!



-- Edited by JonH comes home on Monday 8th of July 2024 06:41:04 AM



-- Edited by JonH comes home on Monday 8th of July 2024 06:43:58 AM

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indiana wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

Ok start?


 Re Steven's expected win %s, our men were 1.32/3 and won 0 and our women were 2.21/4 and won 3.

So overall 3 wins against an expected 3.53. Probably actually closer to bang on if that 3.53 doesn't take out the bookies' margin?

And feels better since I thought some of these expected win figures were rather optimistic - effect of home punts on bookies' odds?


It does take out the margin - I start with the reciprocal of the decimal odds, but then I divide that by the sum of those reciprocals for both players in the match so that the probabilities for both players sum to 100%, i.e. 1. That would be more obvious if there was an all-GB match in the list.

You could argue (correctly) that dividing the probabilities for both players by the same amount isn't an entirely accurate method if the probabilities are very one-sided, but I think it's good enough for these purposes.

So, yes, the men were about 1.3 down and the women about 0.8 up on expectations, and those expectations might have been unrealistically optimistic if some British punters were a bit overenthusiastic. Obviously, the the odds are set in a global market (in the sense that if much better odds were offered on some players in the UK than in the USA, sophisticated punters could engage in arbitrage), but if we assume that British punters are more likely to bet on Wimbledon and Americans more likely to bet on the US Open wherever they are in the world, then some pro-GB optimism might well be reflected in the odds, even in non-UK betting markets.

Having said that, since when has the average Brit been optimistic about Brits at Wimbledon? wink



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Thank you for setting that out, Steven 



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4 wins - Harriet rd 1 singles

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5 wins - Jake, Rd 1 singles

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6 wins - Katie Bm rd 1 singles

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7 and 8 wins - Cam and Jack Rd 1 singles

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2 more wins guaranteed in singles then!

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JonH comes home wrote:

7 and 8 wins - Cam and Jack Rd 1 singles


 I am going to struggle to keep up with this through the day as and when any wins come in, I will be around but not throughout the whole day  - so anyone able to update the wins tally as we go, put the new number and who achieved eg Fred - mens doubles R1 etc, and we can keep tabs on it!!



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With a rain delay already and a poor forecast for the next couple of hours they may not be anything to report for a while yet !

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Day 3 - 9 wins as Henry (+ Harri) win their opening doubles match

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Nice mixed doubles entry and looks not too bad a draw. 40 here we come!



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10 wins - Sonay 2nd round singles



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11 wins - Emma round 2

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