Boys: 2024 U16/U18 Junior National Championships, NTC, acrylic (Weeks 14/15)

DavidC · Tennis legend

Boys: 2024 U16/U18 Junior National Championships, NTC, acrylic (Weeks 14/15)

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Here is the full under 16 boys entry list

competitions.lta.org.uk/sport/event.aspx

Lambda · Challenger level

Streams for qualifying matches are on LTA's secondary YouTube channel. Main draw streams will be on their main YouTube channel from Monday.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

U16 Boys main draw out

competitions.lta.org.uk/sport/tournament/draw

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Only saw a little bit of a couple of boys matches yesterday. To be honest - they were pretty woeful (a bit amazing that these were players at the GB nationals)

The Murray Watters (2009) v Louis Stewart (2008) match, though, this morning is quite a good watch

ADD: Louis ended up edging the match in a MTB. Good effort from both boys.

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Sunday 31st of March 2024 12:56:34 PM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

The qualifying seemed to have lots of seeding upsets - half the seeds didnt make the main draw in boys and girls. Are these upsets or is it more that seeding is hard to get right at this level and much less reliable?

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

I think the seedings are nonsense - they're an admin thing, based on some metric or other - but not an indication of any value

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

A lot of the matches today going to three sets

Liam Channon (2008), bucking the trend, played a good match to beat Brandon Ratanavong (2009) without too much trouble (but Brandon is a decent player for 2009, certainly aided by being a well-built boy for his age)

I've always liked Liam - he makes it look relatively easy on the court, which is a skill in itself

Rose · Lower Club Player

Seeding is based on the LTA ranking for 16U
However, as they get more ranking points for winning a 16U Grade 3 than they do for making the semi final of a J30 the LTA ranking is very inaccurate once you get past 12U!

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Rose wrote:
Seeding is based on the LTA ranking for 16U
However, as they get more ranking points for winning a 16U Grade 3 than they do for making the semi final of a J30 the LTA ranking is very inaccurate once you get past 12U!

Thanks Rose - and lots of seeding upsets in main draw top half; mark Ceban seems to have a decent path now!

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Rose wrote:
Seeding is based on the LTA ranking for 16U
However, as they get more ranking points for winning a 16U Grade 3 than they do for making the semi final of a J30 the LTA ranking is very inaccurate once you get past 12U!

Yes, thanks

And that would certainly explain why it's such nonsense biggrin

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Rhys Lawlor had quite a fight in his opener, won after losing the first set and it was 7-5 in the 3rd set

DavidC · Tennis legend

Niall sneaked through via a third set tiebreak to face Liam next.

U16 QF

(1) Mark Ceban v Jesse Clarkson
Charlie Harvey v Harrison Mcelnea
(7) Liam Channon v (4) Niall Pickerd-Barua
(Q) Casey Drake v (2) Rhys Lawlor

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

The under 18 qualifying draws are out, play in that event starts Saturday

competitions.lta.org.uk/sport/tournament/draw

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

For context:

Generally, there is rather less 'playing up' in the boys - the ages are more respected

Last year's event saw an amazing final

2023 U16

Ben Gusic Wan (2007) def. Oliver Bonding (2007)

The semi-finalists were Alfie King and Zach Hamrouni

In the 2023 U14:

Niall Pickerd-Barua (2010) def. Eric Lorimer (2010)

Niall, despite being well young for this year's event, came through yesterday to make the QFs

The semifinalists were Brandon Ratanavong (2009) and Nate de Mariveles (2009)

In the 2022 U14 (the direct feed-up):

Liam Channon (2008) def. Oilver Page (2008) (good final, that was)

The two semifinalists were Jesse Clarkson (2008) and Kouros Anssarizadeh (2008)

Both Liam and Jesse are still en piste this year in the QFs