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Week 52 - WTA500 - United Cup, Australia


The thread in the general section has been running since the competition was announced. As it is a mixed event surely it ought to be all in that section ? Perhaps the mods can sort it out.

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the addict wrote:

The thread in the general section has been running since the competition was announced. As it is a mixed event surely it ought to be all in that section ? Perhaps the mods can sort it out.


 Tend to agree! 



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How have the players been chosen? Seems like we have some interesting choices like Jan and The two female juniors

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I was wondering what the ranking points for this were and it seems that they are based on the opponents ranking so if, say, Harriet beats Badosa, Harriet gets 45 ranking points but if Badosa beats Harriet, Badosa gets 25 ranking points. Utterly bizarre. Good luck to the live ranking sites to work that out.

So I make the group stage ranking points available
Harriet: (Match 1) 35 + (match 2) 45
Katie: 15 + 25

Cam: 40 + 55
Dan: 40 + 45

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Krygios has pulled out. Cam now plays De Minaur and Dan plays Kubler.

Which as Kubler is ranked much lower than De Minaur is, also means that Dan now has 20 fewer ranking points available to him should he beat his Australian opponent.

Cam: 40 pts for defeating De Minaur + 55 for defeating Nadal
Dan: 20 pts for defeating Kubler + 45 for defeating Carreno Busta


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Whole thing seems a mess, if I was a player is want to play proper tournaments, not this sort of nonsense.

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Tend to agree . Contrived .

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Just playing Devils Advocate here but does it simply need time? Will it become established if it runs for a few years (or is it dead in the water to start with?)



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As posted elsewhere

Streaming/TV availabilty for this week - according to Tennis on Telly

29 Dec
United Cup: Tennis TV and tournament official streaming channels

Looks like there may be live streaming direct from the official website, but have to wait and see. https://www.unitedcup.com/en/video

Link for scores https://www.unitedcup.com/en/score-centre/live-scores



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Shhh wrote:

Just playing Devils Advocate here but does it simply need time? Will it become established if it runs for a few years (or is it dead in the water to start with?)


 Its effectively the ATP Cup with women added. The problem both atp cup had and United cup will have is it is picked on top player - so it guarantees the top stars if they choose to play but it means very inbalanced teams across the piece - which devalues a team event and makes it uncompetitive. if that happens over time, it will with either disappear or go to being more of a top player in each nation world challenge type event, IMO. 



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A mixed team event is good, I liked Hopman Cup (which is now on clay in summer in 2023, but post French Open) but this format makes no sense for the United Cup

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JonH comes home wrote:

A mixed team event is good, I liked Hopman Cup (which is now on clay in summer in 2023, but post French Open) but this format makes no sense for the United Cup


 i also liked the hopman cup, you knew what you were getting, teams based on 2 decent singles players and then the fun of them playing together in mixed. All this United Cup, ATP Cup, new format of Davis Cup, Laver Cup, just leaves me cold. 



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BT sport have secured the rights very late in the day and will show GB tie in morning

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For what it's worth (& in the matches affecting Team GB in Group D in Sydney):

RR1/1: (7) Alex de Miņaur (AUS) WR 24 (CH = 15 in June 2021) vs (15) Cameron Norrie WR 14 (CH = 8 in September)

followed by:

RR1/2:  (7) Zoe Hives (AUS) (*) WR 772 (CH = 140 in October 2019) vs (15) Katie Swan WR 145 (CH = 118 in  October)

(*)  never heard of her!

 

 



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