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Sad to see this news today, hope the youngsters there are taken care of. 

https://dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2022/05/blow-for-tennis-scotland-as-stirling-academy-to-close/amp/ 

 



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I find this all rather strange:

In Dec. 2021, they appointed Noelle Van Lottum as chief coach, and since then (so it seems to me) the results have just got better and better.....

Even if it's not her doing, the results themselves are still great

Ella McDonald, Charlie Robertson, Hep, Hannah Read, Hannah Rylatt.....

Now, I realise that not all those kids are Scottish (although some are). But having regional bases has knock-on good effects, especially when it's doing that well.


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I  maybe wrong but I thought Hannah Read had left Sterling 



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Daisycat wrote:

I  maybe wrong but I thought Hannah Read had left Sterling 


 You're probably right, DaisyC

I'm out of touch.....I can never keep up with where they all are....are the others all still there, do you know? 



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Further to the post above, Stirling is seemingly open until Sept. 2024 when the agreement with the uni rolls off

The Loughborough academy lists the following as players (the site is 2023, so I assume it's up to date)

I was told last year that the cost to the LTA of keeping a child at Loughborough is approx £120k per year

Eva Shaw (now left - see below) 
Given Roach
Ranah Stoiber
Mimi Xu
Talia Neilson-Gatenby
Abby Kelliher
Amalia Widdowson
Daniela Piani

Added: Mika Stojsavljevic


Henry Searle
Hugo Coquelin
Luca Pow

Added: Alex Winder 


www.lboro.ac.uk/sport/sports/tennis/national-tennis-academy/current-players/



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Saturday 25th of February 2023 11:48:25 AM

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The LTA list also has Alex Winder and Mika Stojsavljevic at Loughborough but does not list Eva.
https://www.lta.org.uk/compete/performance/player-pathway/national-academies/overview/

Eta: Archive sites show Eva was listed last August, so she must have left.

-- Edited by Lambda on Saturday 25th of February 2023 11:43:15 AM



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Thanks, Lambda - I'll change it

I like to try and keep up to date but it's not easy

Just for completeness, the site you put up lists the following as being at Stirling:

Ella McDonald
Hannah Rylatt
Hephzibah Oluwadare
Millie Skelton

Charlie Robertson
Henry Jefferson
Viktor Frydrych
Phoenix Weir

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Again, just for info so the thread is a resource, here's the selection criteria for this year:

www.lta.org.uk/491d06/siteassets/pro-players/national-academy-selection-policy-2023-final.pdf

it gives ranking minimums for assessment as well as "A player who reaches the singles final at the U16 National Championships (in 2023) will automatically be shortlisted for selection and would not require an LTA National Coach
nomination"

and also certain details about alternative help if not part of the academy

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Posted by Dodrade:

Wasn't sure where to put this but Nick Cavaday is leaving Loughborough.

archive.ph/CDYHP

Both Briggs and Mike Dickson in the Mail very critical of the Academy system which seems harsh given the talent that trains there. Is Bonding still attending?


Posted be me:

I 'liked' this sentence from Dickson:

"Unfortunately and scarcely believably there remains nobody on the main board of the LTA with any experience of elite tennis to properly question the executive."

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-11894597/Emma-Raducanu-vows-play-Great-Britain-soon-despite-backing-Billie-Jean-King-Cup.html

It is no defence of a system to say 'but there's a couple of real talents there'

It would be truly remarkable if the academies had fostered ZERO decent players

The question is how many talents (compared with the 'normal' route) and at what cost.

And i don't think that saying 'we've given four years of the most expensive training the country has to to offer to players like Given Roach, Hugo Coquelin, Luca Pow' etc is really going to make a good argument



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Mark Taylor has been appointed girls head coach at Loughborough and Morgan Phillips boys head coach.

https://www.lta.org.uk/news/taylor-and-phillips-to-spearhead-loughborough-university-national-tennis-academy/

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This has got me spitting mad

The Loughborough academy is obviously our flagship academy, now that Stirling is closing down. Some players seems to be moving to the NTC for coaching but, all the same, Loughbourough represents the very elite, our absolute best hopes for the future, with a top-of-the-range bespoke programme offering the very best in tennis training.

We also have had a lot of problems with young players getting injured. And older ones too and older players' injuries are often an extension of problems they've already developed along the way.

And teenage bodies are especially prone to problems. And tennis is a particulalry hard sport, as it is so asymmetric, which is bad for a growing body, and involves so much torque and stresses.

AND YET, from someone very closely connected to the place, seemingly the academy has never had a full time physio.

Previously they shared a physio with Loughborough circket. And more recently they've shared a physio with the uni.

But that is one physio. For the whole elite tennis squad. For 11 hours a week, I believe.

And, as far as tennis went, that physio time was basically spent practically completely on the couple of players with well-established injuries. I'm told that other players never got to see a physio, ever, unless they were officially injured. (Which basically relies on the young player self-reporting that they're injured which is ridiculous).

Apparently this will change in the near future but I've honestly never heard anything so disgraceful.

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Boris ?

I agree it's a terrible but it's always "Jam tomorrow"

 



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I also heard from a parent that rehabilitation was substandard so that would explain a lot.

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Daisycat wrote:

I also heard from a parent that rehabilitation was substandard so that would explain a lot.


 Some years ago there was a discussion about whether GBR women  were more likely to be injured than other countries - can't rememer the thread. The conclusion was that they weren't. I wonder if that is still true ?



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There's an update to the list of who is at the National Academies.

The new intake at Loughborough are
Hollie Smart (Middlesex)
Rhys Lawlor (Hertfordshire)
Zechariah Hamrouni (Avon)
Ruby Cooling (Lincolnshire)

joining
Alex Winder
Daniella Piani
Henry Searle
Amalia Widdowson
Talia Neilson-Gatenby
Abby Kelliher
Mika Stojsavljevic

Left the Academy at Loughborough are Given Roach, Luca Pow (both US College), Mimi Xu (Pro Scholarship), Ranah Stoiber (MWP) and Hugo Coquelin.

There's only 4 players left at Stirling, reducing to 3 after Christmas.
They are
Hannah Rylatt (US College bound September 2024),
Henry Jefferson (US College bound early 2024),
Hephzibah Oluwadare
Charlie Robertson.

Having left Stirling are Ella McDonald (Pro Scholarship), Millie Skelton (US College), Viktor Frydrych and Phoenix Weir.

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