The elo rankings from tennis abstract rate our men all higher than their atp rankings- they rate dan at 24, kyle at 27 and cam at 67, before the current event began.
Very creditable effort from Kyle. Unfortunately he has always suffered in humid conditions and his first set levels began to fall away as early as the middle of the 2nd set. Sometimes a person's physiology is such that however much you train and focus on rehydrating, it is impossible to overcome such a handicap. But when he was firing, he looked composed and his backhand in particular stood up to the test thrown at him by Djokovic. Good signs moving forwards.
As for Cam, I didn't see any of that match but what a great day for him. First time into R3 of a slam is a major achievement and given the draw, he must really fancy his chances of going further. So congratulations to him but let's hope there is still more to come.
Some extracts from Stu Fraser's report on the match in yesterday's Times:
Over the course of four hours and 39 minutes at the US Open last night, Andy Murray provided yet another reminder - not that we needed it - of his indomitable spirit. The three-times grand-slam champion's astounding comeback from two sets down against Yoshihito Nishioka, the world No 49 from Japan, will no doubt do wonders for the popularity of hip resurfacing. At the age of 33, he is the first man with a metal hip to win a singles match at a major tournament.
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Murray's woes continued at the start of the second set as Nishioka moved a double break ahead at 3-0, repeatedly coming out on top in the longer rallies. Murray was so bad at this stage that his former coach, Mark Petchey, commentating on Amazon Prime, said that his effort during one particular point was the closest he had ever come to "tanking" - giving up.
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Several players have reported that the court inside Arthur Ashe Stadium is playing slower than the outside courts - which were used for last week's Western & Southern Open - and this evidently worked against Murray as he was struggling to hit through the quickfooted defence of Nishioka. Murray was one point from going down a triple break at 5-0, but suddenly started to show some signs of life as he raised his intensity to hold serve. He claimed one of the breaks back, but could not quite draw level in the set, his fortunes summed up when he broke a racket string with a wayward forehand to give Nishioka a two-set lead.
Murray had not fought back successfully from this position in a best-of-five-set match since the 2016 French Open (against Radek Stepanek) and he became increasingly frustrated early in the third set, shouting "mediocre" to himself before going 3-1 down. But then Nishioka's level dipped for the first time and Murray took advantage by breaking back for 3-3. The set was decided by a tie-break, in which Murray, at 4-5, was only three points from his first straight-sets defeat in the opening round of a grand-slam since the 2006 Australian Open. Suddenly, he cranked up the power behind his forehand to good effect and won three of the next four points to spark hopes of another famous comeback.
And a follow-up in today's edition:
For an insight into the level of interest and respect for Andy Murray's remarkable comeback from his fellow professionals, one need only look at the footage of several players gathering inside Arthur Ashe Stadium for a glimpse of his enthralling five-set, first-round victory in the US Open. Novak Djokovic, Naomi Osaka, Victoria Azarenka, Dominic Thiem and Johanna Konta were among those to take full advantage of the balconies in their private locker rooms, which in a normal year would be used as hospitality suites for sponsors and their guests. It did not go unnoticed by Murray on the court below, who used the presence of some of the world's best players to fire himself up.
Listen again to the closing stages of Murray's fightback from two sets down against Yoshihito Nishioka, the world No 49 from Japan, and you will hear ripples of applause increase in regularity. It was thought there would be no crowd noise whatsoever inside the world's largest tennis stadium this year, given the absence of 23,771 spectators, but the appreciation of a 33-year-old with a metal hip coming out on top in a four-hour-and-39 minute match was so great that there was a noticeable atmosphere.
Inside one of the suites was Serena Williams, keeping an eye on the action as she patiently waited to follow Murray v Nishioka on the court for her opening match. With Murray - her mixed doubles partner at Wimbledon last year - two sets and a break down, the 23-times grand-slam singles champion began warming up. And then one of the great comebacks commenced. "Usually when you're waiting for a match [to finish] and someone is down two sets, you root for the person that's ahead so you can get on the court and get off," Williams, 38, said. "I was rooting for Andy the whole time. I really wanted him to win. Gosh, when he was down in the third set, I was like, 'All right.' I was just rooting for him so hard. I saw him give the racket to his trainer [for restringing in the third set] and thought, 'There's Andy, he plans on playing five sets here.' I was really happy for him. I love his grit. I've always loved that, way before we played doubles. I always said he reminds me a lot of myself. I'm just a big fan. It was really good because I know what it's like to be down, I know what it's like to be injured, I know what it's like to be counted out. I felt like it was a real gutsy win for him and I was really happy."
Perhaps it is no coincidence that Murray played better as the crowd of fascinated players grew in number. He was uncharacteristically flat in the opening two sets, with no fans in the stands to garner energy from, but the glances towards the balconies became more frequent as the match went on.
Off topic, can someone explain the meaning (if there is any!) of the words I've highlighted in bold?
Some extracts from Stu Fraser's report on the match in yesterday's Times:
Over the course of four hours and 39 minutes at the US Open last night, Andy Murray provided yet another reminder - not that we needed it - of his indomitable spirit. The three-times grand-slam champion's astounding comeback from two sets down against Yoshihito Nishioka, the world No 49 from Japan, will no doubt do wonders for the popularity of hip resurfacing. At the age of 33, he is the first man with a metal hip to win a singles match at a major tournament.
*****
Murray's woes continued at the start of the second set as Nishioka moved a double break ahead at 3-0, repeatedly coming out on top in the longer rallies. Murray was so bad at this stage that his former coach, Mark Petchey, commentating on Amazon Prime, said that his effort during one particular point was the closest he had ever come to "tanking" - giving up.
*****
Several players have reported that the court inside Arthur Ashe Stadium is playing slower than the outside courts - which were used for last week's Western & Southern Open - and this evidently worked against Murray as he was struggling to hit through the quickfooted defence of Nishioka. Murray was one point from going down a triple break at 5-0, but suddenly started to show some signs of life as he raised his intensity to hold serve. He claimed one of the breaks back, but could not quite draw level in the set, his fortunes summed up when he broke a racket string with a wayward forehand to give Nishioka a two-set lead.
Murray had not fought back successfully from this position in a best-of-five-set match since the 2016 French Open (against Radek Stepanek) and he became increasingly frustrated early in the third set, shouting "mediocre" to himself before going 3-1 down. But then Nishioka's level dipped for the first time and Murray took advantage by breaking back for 3-3. The set was decided by a tie-break, in which Murray, at 4-5, was only three points from his first straight-sets defeat in the opening round of a grand-slam since the 2006 Australian Open. Suddenly, he cranked up the power behind his forehand to good effect and won three of the next four points to spark hopes of another famous comeback.
And a follow-up in today's edition:
For an insight into the level of interest and respect for Andy Murray's remarkable comeback from his fellow professionals, one need only look at the footage of several players gathering inside Arthur Ashe Stadium for a glimpse of his enthralling five-set, first-round victory in the US Open. Novak Djokovic, Naomi Osaka, Victoria Azarenka, Dominic Thiem and Johanna Konta were among those to take full advantage of the balconies in their private locker rooms, which in a normal year would be used as hospitality suites for sponsors and their guests. It did not go unnoticed by Murray on the court below, who used the presence of some of the world's best players to fire himself up.
Listen again to the closing stages of Murray's fightback from two sets down against Yoshihito Nishioka, the world No 49 from Japan, and you will hear ripples of applause increase in regularity. It was thought there would be no crowd noise whatsoever inside the world's largest tennis stadium this year, given the absence of 23,771 spectators, but the appreciation of a 33-year-old with a metal hip coming out on top in a four-hour-and-39 minute match was so great that there was a noticeable atmosphere.
Inside one of the suites was Serena Williams, keeping an eye on the action as she patiently waited to follow Murray v Nishioka on the court for her opening match. With Murray - her mixed doubles partner at Wimbledon last year - two sets and a break down, the 23-times grand-slam singles champion began warming up. And then one of the great comebacks commenced. "Usually when you're waiting for a match [to finish] and someone is down two sets, you root for the person that's ahead so you can get on the court and get off," Williams, 38, said. "I was rooting for Andy the whole time. I really wanted him to win. Gosh, when he was down in the third set, I was like, 'All right.' I was just rooting for him so hard. I saw him give the racket to his trainer [for restringing in the third set] and thought, 'There's Andy, he plans on playing five sets here.' I was really happy for him. I love his grit. I've always loved that, way before we played doubles. I always said he reminds me a lot of myself. I'm just a big fan. It was really good because I know what it's like to be down, I know what it's like to be injured, I know what it's like to be counted out. I felt like it was a real gutsy win for him and I was really happy."
Perhaps it is no coincidence that Murray played better as the crowd of fascinated players grew in number. He was uncharacteristically flat in the opening two sets, with no fans in the stands to garner energy from, but the glances towards the balconies became more frequent as the match went on.
Off topic, can someone explain the meaning (if there is any!) of the words I've highlighted in bold?
Yeah, she means she was rooting for him as in "lets go!" "come on Andy"
Stircrazy wrote:Inside one of the suites was Serena Williams, keeping an eye on the action as she patiently waited to follow Murray v Nishioka on the court for her opening match. With Murray - her mixed doubles partner at Wimbledon last year - two sets and a break down, the 23-times grand-slam singles champion began warming up. And then one of the great comebacks commenced. "Usually when you're waiting for a match [to finish] and someone is down two sets, you root for the person that's ahead so you can get on the court and get off," Williams, 38, said. "I was rooting for Andy the whole time. I really wanted him to win. Gosh, when he was down in the third set, I was like, 'All right.' I was just rooting for him so hard. I saw him give the racket to his trainer [for restringing in the third set] and thought, 'There's Andy, he plans on playing five sets here.' I was really happy for him. I love his grit. I've always loved that, way before we played doubles. I always said he reminds me a lot of myself. I'm just a big fan. It was really good because I know what it's like to be down, I know what it's like to be injured, I know what it's like to be counted out. I felt like it was a real gutsy win for him and I was really happy."
Perhaps it is no coincidence that Murray played better as the crowd of fascinated players grew in number. He was uncharacteristically flat in the opening two sets, with no fans in the stands to garner energy from, but the glances towards the balconies became more frequent as the match went on.
Off topic, can someone explain the meaning (if there is any!) of the words I've highlighted in bold?
Yeah, she means she was rooting for him as in "lets go!" "come on Andy"
Thanks, but why couldn't she just say that? As a non-speaker of gibberish, how was I supposed to work that one out?!!
Stircrazy wrote:Inside one of the suites was Serena Williams, keeping an eye on the action as she patiently waited to follow Murray v Nishioka on the court for her opening match. With Murray - her mixed doubles partner at Wimbledon last year - two sets and a break down, the 23-times grand-slam singles champion began warming up. And then one of the great comebacks commenced. "Usually when you're waiting for a match [to finish] and someone is down two sets, you root for the person that's ahead so you can get on the court and get off," Williams, 38, said. "I was rooting for Andy the whole time. I really wanted him to win. Gosh, when he was down in the third set, I was like, 'All right.' I was just rooting for him so hard. I saw him give the racket to his trainer [for restringing in the third set] and thought, 'There's Andy, he plans on playing five sets here.' I was really happy for him. I love his grit. I've always loved that, way before we played doubles. I always said he reminds me a lot of myself. I'm just a big fan. It was really good because I know what it's like to be down, I know what it's like to be injured, I know what it's like to be counted out. I felt like it was a real gutsy win for him and I was really happy."
Perhaps it is no coincidence that Murray played better as the crowd of fascinated players grew in number. He was uncharacteristically flat in the opening two sets, with no fans in the stands to garner energy from, but the glances towards the balconies became more frequent as the match went on.
Off topic, can someone explain the meaning (if there is any!) of the words I've highlighted in bold?
Yeah, she means she was rooting for him as in "lets go!" "come on Andy"
Thanks, but why couldn't she just say that? As a non-speaker of gibberish, how was I supposed to work that one out?!!
Well, you just have to use your imagination. What's gibberish to you , might not be gibberish to others
Stircrazy wrote:Inside one of the suites was Serena Williams, keeping an eye on the action as she patiently waited to follow Murray v Nishioka on the court for her opening match. With Murray - her mixed doubles partner at Wimbledon last year - two sets and a break down, the 23-times grand-slam singles champion began warming up. And then one of the great comebacks commenced. "Usually when you're waiting for a match [to finish] and someone is down two sets, you root for the person that's ahead so you can get on the court and get off," Williams, 38, said. "I was rooting for Andy the whole time. I really wanted him to win. Gosh, when he was down in the third set, I was like, 'All right.' I was just rooting for him so hard. I saw him give the racket to his trainer [for restringing in the third set] and thought, 'There's Andy, he plans on playing five sets here.' I was really happy for him. I love his grit. I've always loved that, way before we played doubles. I always said he reminds me a lot of myself. I'm just a big fan. It was really good because I know what it's like to be down, I know what it's like to be injured, I know what it's like to be counted out. I felt like it was a real gutsy win for him and I was really happy."
Perhaps it is no coincidence that Murray played better as the crowd of fascinated players grew in number. He was uncharacteristically flat in the opening two sets, with no fans in the stands to garner energy from, but the glances towards the balconies became more frequent as the match went on.
Off topic, can someone explain the meaning (if there is any!) of the words I've highlighted in bold?
Yeah, she means she was rooting for him as in "lets go!" "come on Andy"
Thanks, but why couldn't she just say that? As a non-speaker of gibberish, how was I supposed to work that one out?!!
Well, you just have to use your imagination. What's gibberish to you , might not be gibberish to others
I have absolutely no intention of wasting my time & (admittedly very literal) imagination trying to make sense of a statement which made none whatsoever to me when I knew others on here from a different generation who would probably get it. That's why I asked.
Stircrazy wrote:Inside one of the suites was Serena Williams, keeping an eye on the action as she patiently waited to follow Murray v Nishioka on the court for her opening match. With Murray - her mixed doubles partner at Wimbledon last year - two sets and a break down, the 23-times grand-slam singles champion began warming up. And then one of the great comebacks commenced. "Usually when you're waiting for a match [to finish] and someone is down two sets, you root for the person that's ahead so you can get on the court and get off," Williams, 38, said. "I was rooting for Andy the whole time. I really wanted him to win. Gosh, when he was down in the third set, I was like, 'All right.' I was just rooting for him so hard. I saw him give the racket to his trainer [for restringing in the third set] and thought, 'There's Andy, he plans on playing five sets here.' I was really happy for him. I love his grit. I've always loved that, way before we played doubles. I always said he reminds me a lot of myself. I'm just a big fan. It was really good because I know what it's like to be down, I know what it's like to be injured, I know what it's like to be counted out. I felt like it was a real gutsy win for him and I was really happy."
Perhaps it is no coincidence that Murray played better as the crowd of fascinated players grew in number. He was uncharacteristically flat in the opening two sets, with no fans in the stands to garner energy from, but the glances towards the balconies became more frequent as the match went on.
Off topic, can someone explain the meaning (if there is any!) of the words I've highlighted in bold?
Yeah, she means she was rooting for him as in "lets go!" "come on Andy"
Thanks, but why couldn't she just say that? As a non-speaker of gibberish, how was I supposed to work that one out?!!
Well, you just have to use your imagination. What's gibberish to you , might not be gibberish to others
I have absolutely no intention of wasting my time & (admittedly very literal) imagination trying to make sense of a statement which made none whatsoever to me when I knew others on here from a different generation who would probably get it. That's why I asked.
It would help if you weren't so dismissive (I.e calling it gibberish) around things like this (since you've expressed your opinion on slang / Americanisms etc more than once).