Matthew Syed hits the nail on the head in The Sunday Times, as he often does.

Stircrazy wrote:

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Matthew Syed hits the nail on the head in The Sunday Times, as he often does.

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Got so much to mind, spot on, from Starmer's "mortifying sycophancy" - ah, said some supposedly very reaonable commentators, Starmer's looking after the UK's interests, Zelenskyy could have avoided the Oval Office spectacle if he had behaved more like Starmer and Macron. Maybe but truly were they such a good example?

Yes, the rest of the western world must pull together, strongly support Ukraine, tell it as it is ( if more diplomatically than the low insults of Trump and Vance ) and generally show some balls.

You just can't, well shouldn't, keep on bending before Trump and his cohorts. He will only feel  emboldened and get worse. Even, as I said before, supposed Republican supporters know this. The vast majority of people surely know this.

But when, oh when, are those who can effect things going to get together and well, effect things?!

indiana wrote:

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I need to leave this thread alone for a bit. Just can't help feeling a need to say. But will leave more room for others.

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 Dont worry Indy - you feel strongly about it as many of us do and theres no harm at all in saying what you think. 

I would be interested to see if anyone out there has a different view and supports Trump generally or supports what he and Vance did on Friday? Not to pick a fight but to get the perspective in a measured way?

Stircrazy wrote:

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Some Americans, at least, have seen the light!

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 There's relatively more sensible folk in New York and the New England states. May they lead the way ...

A quote from Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus a Dutch humanist, satirist, and philosopher The less talent they have, the more pride, vanity, and arrogancy they have. All these fools, however, find other fools who applaud them.

the addict wrote:

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Made me smile

I wouldn't have blamed him if he had !

(I think you can see this without needing an account)

-- Edited by the addict on Monday 3rd of March 2025 09:25:04 PM

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 Not sure if this is the same as youre copying, TA, I cant access that Im afraid - ignore the description, its the Quora writers name ,  its the Zelenskyy and Trump video! 

 

https://www.quora.com/profile/UDO-ANDRE-Quoras-Iguana-King/Bottom-Writers-would-have-turned-away-and-when-asked-reply-He-fell-down?ch=17&oid=213283620&share=7bdbce2e&srid=kMei&target_type=post

Nothing about that man makes me smile.