Week 26 - Wimbledon Women's Qualifying Singles, Roehampton, Great Britain - Grass

flamingowings · All-time great

Week 26 - Wimbledon Women's Qualifying Singles, Roehampton, Great Britain - Grass

indiana · Tennis legend

Ace Ventura wrote:
Andy Parker wrote:
Is it the top seeded losers in the third round who get Lucky Losers slots Ace? Where are you getting that info from - the Wimbledon entry lists page hasn't shown anyone withdrawing since Monday (not even Cibulkova).

-- Edited by Andy Parker on Thursday 27th of June 2019 06:36:03 PM
Bouzkova is definitely in as she Tweeted - https://twitter.com/MarieBouzkova/status/1144290599287296000
Cibulkova offically pulled out yesterday, and judging by this, McHale and Davis have got in as well - https://twitter.com/BenRothenberg/status/1144296724112060418
I think they have added 2 extra places to the slots available, so in this case 3 have pulled out and 5 were in contention and were drawn accordingly. I believe if there's a further withdrawal, Blinkova will get in, and if 2 more withdrawals, Rybakina as well. Sam (and Liam) unfortunately have no chance.
Not sure who the other withdrawals are, but Kvitova was a big doubt and was going to be making a decision this week (so could well be her), Jabeur's injured ankle might make her a possibility, Ostapenko retired in Eastbourne the other day, and Tatjana Maria was apparently struggling and a doubt, so I'd suspect it would be 2 of those 4.
If Petra was going to withdraw, then I hope it's her (I'd like her to play), but she pulled out on the day in RG and it messed up the draw as a Lucky Loser came into her top end seeding position and that kind of messed up that section. If she does withdraw before the draw then the 9th seed would come into those slots, and keep the draw fairer and balanced.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Thursday 27th of June 2019 06:56:03 PM

If Petra wirhdraws before the draw is made then I am pretty sure that they simply move everyone seeded below her up one seeding place, a new #32 comes, and the draw proceeds on that basis.

It is if she withdraws after the draw is made but before play commences that is I understand when the shifting about of some seeds such as as say the #9 and #17 takes place, which is far from as ideal as having all remaining players in order before the draw is made.

Later than that and then we are into LL into her slot territory.

As FW says Andy has been 'guilty' of withdrawing after the draw has been made, certainly in the year he missed Wimbledon because of his wrist problem and few folk ever really expected him to play.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
Andy Parker wrote:
Is it the top seeded losers in the third round who get Lucky Losers slots Ace? Where are you getting that info from - the Wimbledon entry lists page hasn't shown anyone withdrawing since Monday (not even Cibulkova).

-- Edited by Andy Parker on Thursday 27th of June 2019 06:36:03 PM
Bouzkova is definitely in as she Tweeted - https://twitter.com/MarieBouzkova/status/1144290599287296000
Cibulkova offically pulled out yesterday, and judging by this, McHale and Davis have got in as well - https://twitter.com/BenRothenberg/status/1144296724112060418
I think they have added 2 extra places to the slots available, so in this case 3 have pulled out and 5 were in contention and were drawn accordingly. I believe if there's a further withdrawal, Blinkova will get in, and if 2 more withdrawals, Rybakina as well. Sam (and Liam) unfortunately have no chance.
Not sure who the other withdrawals are, but Kvitova was a big doubt and was going to be making a decision this week (so could well be her), Jabeur's injured ankle might make her a possibility, Ostapenko retired in Eastbourne the other day, and Tatjana Maria was apparently struggling and a doubt, so I'd suspect it would be 2 of those 4.
If Petra was going to withdraw, then I hope it's her (I'd like her to play), but she pulled out on the day in RG and it messed up the draw as a Lucky Loser came into her top end seeding position and that kind of messed up that section. If she does withdraw before the draw then the 9th seed would come into those slots, and keep the draw fairer and balanced.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Thursday 27th of June 2019 06:56:03 PM
If Petra wirhdraws before the draw is made then I am pretty sure that they simply move everyone seeded below her up one seeding place, a new #32 comes, and the draw proceeds on that basis.
It is if she withdraws after the draw is made but before play commences that is I understand when the shifting about of some seeds such as as say the #9 and #17 takes place, which is far from as ideal as having everyone in order.
Later than that and then we are into LL into her slot territory.
As FW says Andy has been 'guilty' of withdrawing after the draw has been made, certainly in the year he missed Wimbledon because of his wrist problem and few folk ever really expected him to play.

Yeah, that all sounds correct. I was just meaning the 9th seed would come into those all important 1-8 slots (specifically the 8th), essentially everyone moving one up, which you said far more clearer. That did massively ruin that mini section as the highest seed was Buzarnescu who has struggled since her US Open swing injury last year, so it was basically a free for all to make the L16, and Bolsova ended up taking advantage. I'd love Petra to play her favourite event, but I'd rather she withdrew in time to prevent that happening again. I'd personally prefer that far from ideal rejigging of the draw than a LL coming in and making a section much weaker.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

I heard that there might be no coverage of the draw anywhere this year, is that true? I'm pretty sure I was at least listening to it on Wimbledon radio last year. Would be disappointing if it was just a case of seeing it after it happened.

indiana · Tennis legend

If they have to rejig after the draw is made and move the current #9 seed ( Sloane ) into Petra's #6 seed spot then that is at least rather better than if a #1 to #4 seed is replaced by a #9 ( I think #9 is still the first that they would 'promote'). My "far from as ideal" phrase is really more relevant to a #9 taking the place of a #1 to #4. So in this case yes that would do the biz much better than a LL taking her place if she left it until after play commenced.

flamingowings · All-time great

Andy's last second withdrawal from the USO at the last second was really annoying. That's the one I remember.

indiana · Tennis legend

flamingowings wrote:
Andy's last second withdrawal from the USO at the last second was really annoying. That's the one I remember.

Serial offender !

To be fair to him and I am sure others I think it is more a question of heart winning over head until very late rather than any malintent.

But it can muck up things a bit for other folk.

flamingowings · All-time great

indiana wrote:
flamingowings wrote:
Andy's last second withdrawal from the USO at the last second was really annoying. That's the one I remember.
Serial offender !
To be fair to him and I am sure others I think it is more a question of heart winning over head until very late rather than any malintent.
But it can muck up things a bit for other folk.

Oh I know and realise that but it was still annoying and being an Andy fan on the internet wasn't fun for a few days hmm (not here but elsewhere)

JonH · All-time great

indiana wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
Andy Parker wrote:
Is it the top seeded losers in the third round who get Lucky Losers slots Ace? Where are you getting that info from - the Wimbledon entry lists page hasn't shown anyone withdrawing since Monday (not even Cibulkova).

-- Edited by Andy Parker on Thursday 27th of June 2019 06:36:03 PM
Bouzkova is definitely in as she Tweeted - https://twitter.com/MarieBouzkova/status/1144290599287296000
Cibulkova offically pulled out yesterday, and judging by this, McHale and Davis have got in as well - https://twitter.com/BenRothenberg/status/1144296724112060418
I think they have added 2 extra places to the slots available, so in this case 3 have pulled out and 5 were in contention and were drawn accordingly. I believe if there's a further withdrawal, Blinkova will get in, and if 2 more withdrawals, Rybakina as well. Sam (and Liam) unfortunately have no chance.
Not sure who the other withdrawals are, but Kvitova was a big doubt and was going to be making a decision this week (so could well be her), Jabeur's injured ankle might make her a possibility, Ostapenko retired in Eastbourne the other day, and Tatjana Maria was apparently struggling and a doubt, so I'd suspect it would be 2 of those 4.
If Petra was going to withdraw, then I hope it's her (I'd like her to play), but she pulled out on the day in RG and it messed up the draw as a Lucky Loser came into her top end seeding position and that kind of messed up that section. If she does withdraw before the draw then the 9th seed would come into those slots, and keep the draw fairer and balanced.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Thursday 27th of June 2019 06:56:03 PM
If Petra wirhdraws before the draw is made then I am pretty sure that they simply move everyone seeded below her up one seeding place, a new #32 comes, and the draw proceeds on that basis.
It is if she withdraws after the draw is made but before play commences that is I understand when the shifting about of some seeds such as as say the #9 and #17 takes place, which is far from as ideal as having all remaining players in order before the draw is made.
Later than that and then we are into LL into her slot territory.
As FW says Andy has been 'guilty' of withdrawing after the draw has been made, certainly in the year he missed Wimbledon because of his wrist problem and few folk ever really expected him to play.

In fact Andy's guilt may be even more pronounced. In the case of Washington and Brisbane I think last year, and possibly one of the European indoor events and Asian outdoor events in the Autumn, Andy's entry was sang from the roof tops and used to market the event even though it became clear he could not play and in the case of slams like the US Open he withdrew after the draw. But I think we all put that down to a blinded desire to be fit and I dont doubt others do that also

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

The qualifiers here, and lucky losers, put up a good show in round 1 in the main draw - seven wins.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Cori Gauff had the whole Tribune of seats up on their feet at the end. Just amazing. For a girl born 2004.
Patrick Moratogolou was in the stands, watching and supporting. Seemingly he's her coach now. And a bloody good job he's doing....

So brilliant to see Coco Gauff now in the SFs of a WTA event.

Never understood the skeptics and naysayers - she was knockout (which isn't to say perfect, or from heaven sent, just knockout).

Always interesting to see how the top juniors (or teenagers) who play qualis at Wimbledon evolve through the year.....