ATP Cup

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ATP Cup

flamingowings · All-time great

GB in the group with Belgium and Switzerland and TBC

ATP Cup Groups

Possible Federer-Murray in Sydney. All groups pretty balanced (and strong!). pic.twitter.com/dn5KibThSm
José Morgado (@josemorgado) September 16, 2019

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Of the teams we could get switzerland and Belgium are good draws. Both have strong number ones but v beatable second ranked players and we can win both matches. Should be targeting getting through this group as we should in davis cup

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Appears we will be in Sydney for groups and stay there as knockout stage will also be there. Good for the guys to be in one location

Smudge226 · Strong Club Player

Murray's excellent return has improved GB chances in this ATP World Club Cup and new format DC but wondering how it'll be decided which nations player plays rubber1 for instance? Guessing this'll be rankings, which puts Andy against a second seed well behind Cam and Dan etc. When I looked at DC format I didn't see this explained, dubs would be 3rd rubber in DC, assume it'll be the same for the ATP event. It is totally mad this situation of 2x world cups within 6weeks effectively, bonkers.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Smudge226 wrote:
Murray's excellent return has improved GB chances in this ATP World Club Cup and new format DC but wondering how it'll be decided which nations player plays rubber1 for instance? Guessing this'll be rankings, which puts Andy against a second seed well behind Cam and Dan etc. When I looked at DC format I didn't see this explained, dubs would be 3rd rubber in DC, assume it'll be the same for the ATP event. It is totally mad this situation of 2x world cups within 6weeks effectively, bonkers.

The ATP cup format has number 2 players against each other, then number ones, then doubles.

I'm sure it is based on rankings. In this case, andy could play first, then dan, then possibly andy could play doubles if they go down that route. So probably better that andy would be number 2 although less likely hed play doubles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_Cup

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

The format saw 24 teams divided into six groups of four teams each. The teams will face in ties composed of two singles match and one doubles match. The match between the No. 2 of each team will open the tie, then the No.1 of each team, and the doubles match closing the tie. The doubles match will be played regardless whether the tie is decided or not. The winner from each group will be joined by the two best second places in the quarterfinals of the tournament for three knock-out rounds until a champion team is crowned.[8]

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

According to wiki davis cup will also be singles followed by doubles, order isnt clear for singles ie 1s or 2s going first

The Finals, formerly known as World Group, is the highest level of Davis Cup competition in 2019. It will be held on indoor hard courts at the Caja Mágica in Madrid, Spain from 18 until 24 November.[1] The ties are contested in a best-of-three rubbers format and are played on one day. There are two singles followed by a doubles.[2]

Smudge226 · Strong Club Player

Thanks Jon, that all makes sense and only 18 teams in the DC so six groups of three in group stage, which doesn't leave much for a bad result. Looking at GB fixtures we play the Dutch on Wednesday morning and Kazakstan on Thursday morning with potential QF Friday, Saturday SF and Sunday is final day, very tight. It starts Monday but GB don't play till Wednesday. Clear advantage to openers.

flamingowings · All-time great

Federer not playing due to family reasons.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

flamingowings wrote:
Federer not playing due to family reasons.

That will help GB then. Belgium (Goffin v Evans, Bemelmans v Andy Murray, Gilles and Vliegen in Doubles?) certainly beatable and Switzerland (Wawrinka v Dan Evans, Laaksonen v Andy Murray? Doubles Murray/Skupski v ??) also certainly beatable as well, probably means Belgium will be tougher in reality over a 3 rubber match

seagull · Hall of fame

We won't be playing Switzerland, they no longer qualify

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

seagull wrote:
We won't be playing Switzerland, they no longer qualify

Wouldn't stan be high enough as number 1 ?

the addict · Tennis legend

Note that Federer says he wants a longer break and more time with his family - but still has a heavy schedule of exhibition matches, including one immediately after Christmas.

seagull · Hall of fame

Switzerland's Roger Federer has withdrawn from the inaugural ATP Cup in January for "family reasons".

The 20-time Grand Slam champion's decision means Switzerland no longer qualify for the 24-team event.

Switzerland had been drawn in the same group as Great Britain, who qualified after Andy Murray confirmed his entry.

An extra team will now qualify for the event, which runs from 3-11 January 2020, with the final line-up confirmed on 13 November.