ATP Cup

RedSquirrel · Satellite level

RE: ATP Cup

JonH · All-time great

I hadn't realised ATP publish at ATP cup ranking list each week

www.atptour.com/en/rankings/atp-cup-standings

We are 3rd courtesy of Andy Murray pr , would be 17th if left to use Kyle's current ranking

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

For those interested the ATP rankings at end of US Open will determine 18 of the 24 teams in this event.

Andy's PR will ensure we qualify in 3rd place, without that we would miss out on the first 18 places.

www.atptour.com/en/rankings/atp-cup-standings

Born2WinTennis · Club Coach

We have a wildcard though anyway?

Born2WinTennis · Club Coach

Or am I thinking of the Davis Cup #confused

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Born2WinTennis wrote:
Or am I thinking of the Davis Cup #confused

Hi, yep, it is the DC we have a wild card in.

ATP Cup is the ATP version, same but different!

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

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Great Britain in danger of missing out on a place in the ATP Cup as Andy Murray is uncertain whether he will participate. Qualification next week in first intake of 18 teams is reliant on Murray using his protected ranking, but he may play Doha instead.

seagull · Hall of fame

Sooner he played Doha - this is rubbish

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

I'd rather he played Doha as well. Seems crazy having 2 national team events within 6 weeks of each other, and even worse, that someone who has been a bit part player for over 2 years can directly influence whether compatriots get to play or not. Likewise, someone very low ranked from somewhere like Greece can play for significant ranking points just because a compatriot is in the top 10. Just seems a farce really.

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes, pretty strange entry system depending on a nation's top player and maybe backed up by not very much.

No doubt just to try and make sure that they have at least got the top players there. We'll see how that works out.

So this thing has ATP ranking points does it?

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

As someone who doesn't even particularly like Davis Cup, I've absolutely no idea what the ATP Cup (quoi?) is all about.....

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

This explains it - yes ATP points but on a sliding scale which seems to give higher ranked players more points. It is a glorified exhibition. www.atptour.com/en/news/atp-cup-faqs

From what I can tell even if Andy didnt make it/choose to play, we are still the 19th ranked top player with Kyle at 32 in live rankings, so GB would get into the final cut of 24 comfortably. The current 24th country looks like Norway or Kazakhstan and their top players are in the mid 50's ranking wise.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

...the top player for each country also gets to choose the team captain or choose to be the team captain themselves. I imagine GB would appoint Leon Smith for this as well, although I might well be wrong, but it would appear to Andy's choice, should he select to play - maybe he would choose Judy to be captain?!

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

twitter.com/stu_fraser/status/1172566536168660992

Looks like GB will be involved.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Just noting that although GB qualified through Andy's PR status, in terms of the seedings for the draw that takes place on Monday 16th, this is based on actual ranking and thus with Kyle the lowest of the top 18 seeded nations number one players, we will in fact be seeded 18th. This means we will play one team ranked 1-6 in the seedings, and one team ranked 7 to 12.

Switzerland and Austria would appear the best ones to get in the top 6, given the weakness of their number 2 players, and one of Greece or Belgium in the second tier of 7-12 seeds.

1 Serbia Novak Djokovic 1 Dusan Lajovic 29
2 Spain Rafael Nadal 2 Roberto Bautista Agut 10
3 Switzerland Roger Federer 3 Henri Laaksonen 110
4 Russia Daniil Medvedev 4 Karen Khachanov 9
5 Austria Dominic Thiem 5 Dennis Novak 122
6 Germany Alexander Zverev 6 Jan-Lennard Struff 39
7 Greece Stefanos Tsitsipas 7 Michail Pervolarakis 462
8 Japan Kei Nishikori 8 Yoshihito Nishioka 58
9 Italy Fabio Fognini 11 Matteo Berrettini 13
10 France Gaël Monfils 12 Benoît Paire 23
11 Belgium David Goffin 14 Steve Darcis 178
12 Croatia Borna ori 15 Marin ili 28
13 Argentina Diego Schwartzman 16 Guido Pella 22
14 Georgia Nikoloz Basilashvili 17 Aleksandre Metreveli 695
15 South Africa Kevin Anderson 18 Lloyd Harris 113
16 United States John Isner 20 Taylor Fritz 30
17 Canada Félix Auger-Aliassime 21 Milos Raonic 24
18 United Kingdom Andy Murray 415 (PR 2) Kyle Edmund 32
19 (WC) Australia Nick Kyrgios 27 Alex de Minaur 31