The road to the Australian Open

the addict · Tennis legend

The road to the Australian Open

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
You forgot Samantha Murray, who is ranked 220

I have indeed, shocking, very ageist of me smile - I'll go back and amend. Actually, I'll duplicate some of the post instead, as it's always a bit annoying when you make a detailed post and it's right at the bottom of a page, and affects visibility.

Main draw (cut off 9th December)

Konta will be a 9-16 seed, but the exact number will depend on how she, and others, do in the Aussie warm up event(s).
Boulter has a PR that will get her in the main draw, so she can definitely play if she wants to
Bar any surprise late MDWCs into the W25 Solarino draw today, Watson will be ranked 102 at the cut off in a couple of weeks - I'd imagine there will be more using PR than withdrawing, so it'll be very touch and go whether or not she manages to sneak in, I'd probably lean more towards unlikely.

Qualifying (cut off 23rd December)

Possibly Watson as a high seed unfortunately
Dart safely in qualifying
Murray will be 219 as it stand in 23rd Dec rankings, so almost certain to be in quals
Swan will be 243 as it stands
Bains will be 248 as it stands

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Monday 25th of November 2019 03:48:09 PM

DF · Tennis legend

Also no mention of Harriet Dart

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Christ, another, ha.

I guess I was (genuinely) mainly focussing on those who are in main draw or qualifying contention as in the 'road', hence leaving out, or forgetting about, Sam and Harriet, who'll both be no higher or lower than quals even if they don't hit another ball until Melbourne, but by adding the Konta seeding reference, I really should have included Sam and Harriet as well, to get the full overall picture.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Monday 25th of November 2019 03:49:51 PM

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Just saw on TF that multi slam quarter finalist Kaia Kanepi will play a W15 event this week, the same one as Alicia. Thankfully she's in the other side of the draw to Alicia.

It sounds absolutely ridiculous, but it makes sense, if she wins 3 matches she will go from 105 to 102 (passing Watson). If she gets 10 points for the title then she'll be on the same points as Begu at 101, so not sure who would be ahead, but while prime vulturing, from her POV I'd rather beat 3 W15 level players to qualify than 3 100-250 level players in Melbourne, but either way, it's very likely Heather will be moving down another place in the rankings prior to the cut off.

indiana · Tennis legend

I am guessing that Heather is fit and it is her choice to have wrapped it up for the year more than a month ago. While probably prefering to stick to plan, that can come with risks.

Maybe though she has some injury or at least niggle(s) that she wants to clear up.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
I am guessing that Heather is fit and it is her choice to have wrapped it up for the year more than a month ago. While probably prefering to stick to plan, that can come with risks.

Maybe though she has some injury or at least niggle(s) that she wants to clear up.

I'd imagine that she would have thought she had the AO spot wrapped up after Tianjin. I remember most on here, myself included, were sure she'd done enough after making the final and reaching the dizzy heights of 88. She obviously did have a few US ITF/125k points dropping off, but you'd normally assume 662 would be more than enough to safely be in the top 100. I don't know if anyone has any stats at hand, but that does seem particularly high to potentially miss out.

I suppose she maybe could have saw it coming a couple of weeks ago, but if she was already in off season mode then it's not ideal coming back to chase points, plus most of the lists would have already been sorted and she'd be relying on WCs like Kanepi (which she'd more than like have got). She'll just have to wait and see, but it would be a shame, especially as she lost in Q2 and Q1 respectively at the most recent French and US Opens, and it's always a tense week.

HarryGem · Club Coach

According to the WTA website there is a 125k competition in Limoges from 16-22nd December. Will this count?

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

HarryGem wrote:
According to the WTA website there is a 125k competition in Limoges from 16-22nd December. Will this count?

I was aware of that event, but completely forgot about it on my prior post, it's a lot later than last year, but yes, it'll count towards the qualifying cut off. So while it's often a reasonably strong entry list, some of the lower ranked players may be able to gain enough points to influence getting into the top 240/50.

I don't think there's any initial entry list out yet, but I guess we could maybe see someone like Katie Swan in it trying to secure last minute points, although she too has been in off season mode judging by her social media, so perhaps not. Could be another chance for Naiktha though if her Indian / UAE swing doesn't lead to much.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Monday 25th of November 2019 07:47:17 PM

HarryGem · Club Coach

Ace Ventura wrote:
indiana wrote:
I am guessing that Heather is fit and it is her choice to have wrapped it up for the year more than a month ago. While probably prefering to stick to plan, that can come with risks.

Maybe though she has some injury or at least niggle(s) that she wants to clear up.
I'd imagine that she would have thought she had the AO spot wrapped up after Tianjin. I remember most on here, myself included, were sure she'd done enough after making the final and reaching the dizzy heights of 88. She obviously did have a few US ITF/125k points dropping off, but you'd normally assume 662 would be more than enough to safely be in the top 100. I don't know if anyone has any stats at hand, but that does seem particularly high to potentially miss out.
I suppose she maybe could have saw it coming a couple of weeks ago, but if she was already in off season mode then it's not ideal coming back to chase points, plus most of the lists would have already been sorted and she'd be relying on WCs like Kanepi (which she'd more than like have got). She'll just have to wait and see, but it would be a shame, especially as she lost in Q2 and Q1 respectively at the most recent French and US Opens, and it's always a tense week.

10th December 18 saw Ferro in 100th spot with 615 points. Heather had 665 and was ranked 92nd.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Thanks Harry, so yeah, a bit unlucky when you see that.

indiana · Tennis legend

That's quite a shift, yes, but if players have specific ranking targets they do have to be aware that the associated points are pretty variable. And if looked into, it has no doubt been clesr for a while that the projected points for just over the WR 100 mark were looking to be high towards year end.

telstar · Strong Club Player

Heather is playing mixed in the Champions Tennis event this week at the Royal Albert Hall! On court with Hingis and Bahrami!

-- Edited by telstar on Tuesday 26th of November 2019 12:58:59 AM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

This was the full list I just pulled off tennis forums from 18th Nov.

As per above, confirms Heather on cusp of MD and also that Katie Swan and Naiktha Bains are on cusp of qualies

The Race To AUS Open Main Draw
RANK DATE: 18 November 2019

1 (1) BARTY, ASHLEIGH AUS 7851 15
2 (2) PLISKOVA, KAROLINA CZE 5940 19 190 105
3 (3) OSAKA, NAOMI JPN 5496 17 55 1
4 (4) HALEP, SIMONA ROU 5462 17 1 1
5 (5) ANDREESCU, BIANCA VANESSA CAN 5183 14 50
6 (6) SVITOLINA, ELINA UKR 5075 22 100 30
7 (7) KVITOVA, PETRA CZE 4776 17 55 1
8 (8) BENCIC, BELINDA SUI 4685 23 60 55
9 (9) BERTENS, KIKI NED 4245 27 180 180
10 (10) WILLIAMS, SERENA USA 3935 10
11 (11) SABALENKA, ARYNA BLR 3120 24 105 100
12 (12) KONTA, JOHANNA GBR 2879 17 1 1
13 (13) KEYS, MADISON USA 2767 15
14 (14) KENIN, SOFIA USA 2740 24 105 105
15 (15) MARTIC, PETRA CRO 2617 18 1 1
16 (16) VONDROUSOVA, MARKETA CZE 2390 12
17 (17) MERTENS, ELISE BEL 2290 26 60 60
18 (18) RISKE, ALISON USA 2210 24 55 55
19 (19) VEKIC, DONNA CRO 2205 23 80 60
20 (20) KERBER, ANGELIQUE GER 2175 22 110 100
21 (21) MUCHOVA, KAROLINA CZE 1864 15
22 (22) YASTREMSKA, DAYANA UKR 1825 24 60 55
23 (23) SAKKARI, MARIA GRE 1820 23 30 1
24 (24) ANISIMOVA, AMANDA USA 1793 17 1 1
25 (25) STEPHENS, SLOANE USA 1737 20 1 1
26 (26) KONTAVEIT, ANETT EST 1645 19 55 30
27 (27) SEVASTOVA, ANASTASIJA LAT 1617 23 30 1
28 (28) GOERGES, JULIA GER 1610 21 30 1
29 (29) WANG, QIANG CHN 1563 20 30 1
30 (30) PAVLYUCHENKOVA, ANASTASIA RUS 1560 22 30 1
31 (31) COLLINS, DANIELLE USA 1558 19 1 1 1
32 (32) HSIEH, SU-WEI TPE 1505 24 55 55
33 (33) STRYCOVA, BARBORA CZE 1491 21 1 1
34 (34) PUTINTSEVA, YULIA KAZ 1460 25 55 30
35 (35) MUGURUZA, GARBIÑE ESP 1412 16 1
36 (36) RYBAKINA, ELENA KAZ 1401 25 15 8
37 (37) WOZNIACKI, CAROLINE DEN 1383 16 1
38 (38) MLADENOVIC, KRISTINA FRA 1360 27 60 60
39 (46) ZHANG, SHUAI CHN 1355 26 140 30 1
40 (39) KUDERMETOVA, VERONIKA RUS 1351 26 60 55
41 (40) ZHENG, SAISAI CHN 1350 24 60 30
42 (41) ALEXANDROVA, EKATERINA RUS 1325 27 60 30
43 (42) LINETTE, MAGDA POL 1320 27 20 20
44 (43) PETERSON, REBECCA SWE 1275 23 30 30
45 (44) OSTAPENKO, JELENA LAT 1250 27 55 55
46 (45) GARCIA, CAROLINE FRA 1235 25 30 30
47 (47) VAN UYTVANCK, ALISON BEL 1175 24 30 30
48 (48) WANG, YAFAN CHN 1165 24 60 50
49 (49) HERCOG, POLONA SLO 1145 24 30 29
50 (50) AZARENKA, VICTORIA BLR 1115 18 55 1
51 (51) TOMLJANOVIC, AJLA AUS 1115 28 30 30
52 (52) KUZMOVA, VIKTORIA SVK 1105 26 30 30
53 (53) WILLIAMS, VENUS USA 1079 16 1
54 (54) KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA RUS 1052 13
55 (55) SUÁREZ NAVARRO, CARLA ESP 1048 19 1 1
56 (56) BRADY, JENNIFER USA 1047 24 29 20
57 (57) BOUZKOVA, MARIE CZE 1034 25 14 13
58 (58) SINIAKOVA, KATERINA CZE 1020 28 25 1
59 (59) CORNET, ALIZÉ FRA 1015 22 30 30
60 (60) SWIATEK, IGA POL 1011 16 1
61 (61) BLINKOVA, ANNA RUS 1007 27 20 15
62 (63) FERRO, FIONA FRA 926 27 12 12
63 (64) ZIDANSEK, TAMARA SLO 908 26 28 20
64 (62) DAVIS, LAUREN USA 902 20 13 2
65 (66) PERA, BERNARDA USA 863 25 18 13
66 (67) PLISKOVA, KRISTYNA CZE 859 27 29 29
67 (68) SASNOVICH, ALIAKSANDRA BLR 858 22 1 1
68 (69) GAUFF, CORI USA 855 13
69 (70) KASATKINA, DARIA RUS 851 21 1 1
70 (94) FLIPKENS, KIRSTEN BEL 848 26 160 30 1
71 (71) ZHU, LIN CHN 845 29 25 15
72 (72) TSURENKO, LESIA UKR 842 17 1 1
73 (73) TEICHMANN, JIL SUI 827 26 1 1
74 (74) CIRSTEA, SORANA ROU 822 21 1 1
75 (75) SIEGEMUND, LAURA GER 805 25 20 18
76 (77) JABEUR, ONS TUN 780 22 20 2
77 (78) DIYAS, ZARINA KAZ 775 23 20 20
78 (79) PETKOVIC, ANDREA GER 770 26 30 20
79 (80) PUIG, MONICA PUR 770 22 20 20
80 (81) GOLUBIC, VIKTORIJA SUI 765 21 13 13
81 (65) PENG, SHUAI CHN 762 19 50 1 1
82 (84) TOWNSEND, TAYLOR USA 761 15 29
83 (82) DOI, MISAKI JPN 754 25 1 1
84 (76) PEGULA, JESSICA USA 743 19 13 1
85 (83) SORRIBES TORMO, SARA ESP 739 28 29 29
86 (91) KOVINIC, DANKA MNE 734 29 57 12 5
87 (88) MARIA, TATJANA GER 729 32 50 30 28
88 (85) STOJANOVIC, NINA SRB 729 21 5 5
89 (86) MCHALE, CHRISTINA USA 726 25 15 12
90 (104) BABOS, TIMEA HUN 720 27 95 20 13
91 (108) DIATCHENKO, VITALIA RUS 713 24 178 8 8
92 (87) KOZLOVA, KATERYNA UKR 711 22 13 12
93 (89) AHN, KRISTIE USA 699 23 4 2
94 (90) POTAPOVA, ANASTASIA RUS 695 24 2 1
95 (92) BRENGLE, MADISON USA 691 26 13 12
96 (105) PAOLINI, JASMINE ITA 688 29 85 9 9
97 (95) BADOSA, PAULA ESP 687 32 12 12
98 (96) STOSUR, SAMANTHA AUS 683 22 18 2
99 (97) GIORGI, CAMILA ITA 680 17 1 1
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- All from Top 1 to 97 likely IN, if they want -
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100 (98) BEGU, IRINA-CAMELIA ROU 669 23 15 1
101 (99) RUS, ARANTXA NED 669 32 18 18
102 (93) WATSON, HEATHER GBR 662 25 1 1
103 (100) GASPARYAN, MARGARITA RUS 661 22 1 1
104 (101) KALINSKAYA, ANNA RUS 661 20 3 2
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105 (102) KANEPI, KAIA EST 659 13
106 (103) HIBINO, NAO JPN 645 29 25 13 13
107 (107) ZAVATSKA, KATARINA UKR 631 32 29 8 5
108 (106) GRACHEVA, VARVARA RUS 611 27 5 6 6
109 (109) SHARMA, ASTRA AUS 597 24 2 1
110 (110) BUZARNESCU, MIHAELA ROU 596 26 1 1
111 (111) TIG, PATRICIA MARIA ROU 593 17 1 1
112 (112) VIKHLYANTSEVA, NATALIA RUS 590 22 10 8
113 (118) VOEGELE, STEFANIE SUI 590 32 57 10 9
114 (115) KORPATSCH, TAMARA GER 589 28 18 8 5
115 (113) BOLSOVA , ALIONA ESP 583 24 9 5
116 (114) BONAVENTURE, YSALINE BEL 576 25 10 8
117 (116) NICULESCU, MONICA ROU 561 16 1
118 (117) MCNALLY, CATHERINE USA 539 17 29 1 1
119 (119) HADDAD MAIA, BEATRIZ BRA 538 14
120 (120) DI LORENZO, FRANCESCA USA 524 26 1 8 8
121 (135) BOGDAN, ANA ROU 508 23 50 1 1
122 (121) MINNEN, GREET BEL 505 24 5 2
123 (122) PARMENTIER, PAULINE FRA 501 29 10 1 (MD WC)
124 (123) HON, PRISCILLA AUS 500 25 1 9 8
125 (125) FLINK, VARVARA RUS 495 24 10 6
126 (129) JUVAN, KAJA SLO 490 18 15 1 1
127 (124) KAWA, KATARZYNA POL 490 22 1 1
128 (130) INGLIS, MADDISON AUS 473 24 9 8
129 (131) KREJCIKOVA, BARBORA CZE 471 12
130 (127) CABRERA, LIZETTE AUS 467 28 1 1
131 (132) SHARAPOVA, MARIA RUS 466 12
132 (134) SCHMIEDLOVA, ANNA KAROLINA SVK 460 15
133 (126) MARTINCOVA, TEREZA CZE 459 27 1 12 12
134 (138) ARCONADA, USUE MAITANE USA 459 21 15 8 2
135 (136) SAMSONOVA, LIUDMILA RUS 455 26 9 5
136 (133) JOROVIC, IVANA SRB 447 16 1
137 (128) OSUIGWE, WHITNEY USA 443 21 1 1 1
138 (139) BACSINSZKY, TIMEA SUI 441 17 1 1
139 (144) MINELLA, MANDY LUX 439 30 29 9 8
140 (143) NARA, KURUMI JPN 436 23 25 12 9
141 (140) DART, HARRIET GBR 432 18 1 1
142 (137) GIBBS, NICOLE USA 432 18 1 1
143 (141) KIICK, ALLIE USA 431 29 1 8 2
144 (142) WANG, XIYU CHN 430 24 9 6
145 (160) TOMOVA, VIKTORIYA BUL 424 31 57 8 6
146 (148) DOLEHIDE, CAROLINE USA 419 25 15 2 2
147 (145) FRIEDSAM, ANNA-LENA GER 417 16 1
148 (147) LI, ANN USA 414 23 15 9 8
149 (154) WANG, XINYU CHN 413 22 25 1 1
150 (149) CEPEDE ROYG, VERONICA PAR 404 25 12 9
151 (151) WICKMAYER, YANINA BEL 395 22 2 1
152 (150) HAAS, BARBARA AUT 394 28 5 2
153 (152) KOSTYUK, MARTA UKR 392 16 1
154 (155) ARRUABARRENA, LARA ESP 386 23 1 1
155 (153) BOLKVADZE, MARIAM GEO 385 22 4 3
156 (158) TREVISAN, MARTINA ITA 384 25 9 6 2
157 (156) VICKERY, SACHIA USA 380 24 1 8 2
158 (173) CEPELOVA, JANA SVK 379 23 29 8 5
159 (157) ZVONAREVA, VERA RUS 378 13 (MD SR)
160 (159) LOTTNER, ANTONIA GER 375 23 5 2
161 (161) KALININA, ANHELINA UKR 375 26 15 12 10
162 (164) KOSTIC, NATALIJA SRB 373 30 13 50 6 6
163 (166) SHINIKOVA, ISABELLA BUL 372 25 15 8 5
164 (162) BARA, IRINA ROU 367 27 9 8
165 (163) ANDERSON, ROBIN USA 367 20 2 1
166 (165) KRUNIC, ALEKSANDRA SRB 362 21 1 1
167 (168) COCCIARETTO, ELISABETTA ITA 361 16 1 1
168 (146) SCHOOFS, BIBIANE NED 360 28 1 8 8
169 (169) BUCSA, CRISTINA ESP 360 22 5 6 5
170 (170) PAQUET, CHLOE FRA 360 31 5 5
171 (171) HIBI, MAYO JPN 357 24 5 5
172 (167) LEPCHENKO, VARVARA USA 354 30 1 8 6
173 (174) SRAMKOVA, REBECCA SVK 353 23 1 1
174 (175) BARTHEL, MONA GER 352 19 1 1
175 (172) KUCOVA, KRISTINA SVK 351 19 1 1
176 (176) RYBARIKOVA, MAGDALENA SVK 351 14
177 (177) ROGERS, SHELBY USA 351 18 1 1 1
178 (178) GATTO-MONTICONE, GIULIA ITA 350 22 9 5
179 (179) BUYUKAKCAY, CAGLA TUR 349 26 9 9 9
180 (181) HAN, NA-LAE KOR 344 23 13 8 5
181 (196) DODIN, OCEANE FRA 332 18 30 2 1
182 (183) LU, JIA-JING CHN 330 27 5 5
183 (201) JAKUPOVIC, DALILA SLO 325 31 29 2 1
184 (182) RUSE, ELENA-GABRIELA ROU 325 16 1
185 (198) HAN, XINYUN CHN 324 26 25 1 1
186 (180) SAVINYKH, VALERIA RUS 323 27 5 4
187 (185) RAINA, ANKITA IND 321 32 1 8 8
188 (188) DANILOVIC, OLGA SRB 320 24 13 2 2
189 (184) OSORIO SERRANO, MARIA CAMILA COL 318 15 30
190 (221) PATTINAMA KERKHOVE, LESLEY NED 316 25 50 5 2
191 (186) NAITO, YUKI JPN 316 22 1 1 1
192 (204) RAKHIMOVA, KAMILLA RUS 313 25 20 4 4 3
193 (187) GOVORTSOVA, OLGA BLR 312 21 1 5 4
194 (189) SHERIF, MAYAR EGY 311 22 2 2
195 (190) HOGENKAMP, RICHEL NED 310 22 1 1
196 (191) LAO, DANIELLE USA 308 24 1 2 2
197 (193) PONCHET, JESSIKA FRA 305 28 8 8 8
198 (194) HIVES, ZOE AUS 304 23 1 1
199 (195) ERRANI, SARA ITA 304 21 1 1
200 (197) KOSTOVA, ELITSA BUL 303 33 1 9 8
201 (200) AIAVA, DESTANEE AUS 299 26 5 2
202 (202) FRECH, MAGDALENA POL 297 23 8 8
203 (203) DI GIUSEPPE, MARTINA ITA 297 28 2 2
204 (192) JANI, REKA-LUCA HUN 296 27 5 5
205 (206) MELNIKOVA, MARINA RUS 295 28 5 5 5
206 (207) RODIONOVA, ARINA AUS 292 30 1 8 5
207 (208) CRISTIAN, JAQUELINE ROU 292 25 5 5 5
208 (210) GORGODZE, EKATERINE GEO 291 28 5 5 2
209 (209) MUHAMMAD, ASIA USA 288 21 1 1
210 (211) PERRIN, CONNY SUI 286 28 8 2
211 (213) FERNANDEZ, LEYLAH ANNIE CAN 285 15
212 (214) MCPHEE, KAYLAH AUS 283 25 1 1
213 (205) OZGEN, PEMRA TUR 283 29 5 4
214 (220) BOUCHARD, EUGENIE CAN 282 18 15 1 1
215 (215) PARRIZAS DIAZ, NURIA ESP 281 21 5 5
216 (216) LARSSON, JOHANNA SWE 280 23 1 1
217 (219) YOU, XIAODI CHN 279 30 13 5 5
218 (217) CHWALINSKA, MAJA POL 278 13
219 (212) PAAR, LAURA IOANA ROU 277 22 1 1
220 (218) MURRAY, SAMANTHA GBR 275 18 5 1 1
221 (199) LIANG, EN-SHUO TPE 272 26 2 2
222 (222) SATRALOVA, DENISA CZE 268 17 1 1
223 (223) BONDAR, ANNA HUN 267 26 2 1
224 (225) NAYDENOVA, ALEKSANDRINA BUL 266 27 5 9 5 4
225 (227) JAKSIC, JOVANA SRB 263 31 10 8 8
226 (226) GRABHER, JULIA AUT 263 24 5 5
227 (255) OKAMURA, KYOKA JPN 260 25 38 9 5 3
228 (228) YUAN, YUE CHN 259 22 1 1
229 (224) XUN, FANG YING CHN 259 34 8 5
230 (230) CE, GABRIELA BRA 257 24 1 5 1
231 (234) GUERRERO ALVAREZ, EVA ESP 256 21 5 1 1
232 (231) MA, SHUYUE CHN 254 32 3 3
233 (240) LIU, FANGZHOU CHN 253 25 13 5 5
234 (232) HOBGARSKI, KATHARINA GER 253 23 1 1
235 (328) VANDEWEGHE, COCO USA 252 9 95 (MD WC)
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236 (233) GERLACH, KATHARINA GER 252 25 5 5
237 (235) GAVRILOVA, DARIA AUS 251 18 1 1
238 (236) KOMARDINA, ANASTASIYA RUS 249 24 5 5
239 (237) SWAN, KATIE GBR 247 21 1 1
240 (238) PEREZ, ELLEN AUS 246 27 1 1 1
241 (239) RODINA, EVGENIYA RUS 246 21 1 1
242 (241) EIKERI, ULRIKKE NOR 244 21 5 2
243 (242) BIRRELL, KIMBERLY AUS 241 14
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246 (243) MARCINKEVICA, DIANA LAT 239 30 5 5
247 (244) TAN, HARMONY FRA 236 24 1 1
248 (245) FOURLIS, JAIMEE AUS 235 26 2 1
249 (259) HESSE, AMANDINE FRA 234 34 20 6 6
250 (254) IVAKHNENKO, VALENTYNA RUS 233 24 5 2 1

emmsie69 · ATP level

Haddad Maia is banned isn't she so thats one out of qualifying plus location means it is less likely that players fly out there if they are unfit and suspect they won't be able to play.