Interesting, lower points that it use to be so encourages playing up. Also with the bigger main draws at challenger probably right.

Madadman wrote:

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I assume this will shown in Mondays rankings. Will help out Evan, Jack & Lloyd the most I guess.

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No.  This will become active in early August.

indiana wrote:

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Madadman wrote:

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I assume this will shown in Mondays rankings. Will help out Evan, Jack & Lloyd the most I guess.

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 As per the press release rakninhs will be updated retrospectively but not until 05/08/19.

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Posting on the iPhone again Indi ? 

indiana wrote:

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Bah. I actually deleted that post because it just repeated your goodself. Too late.

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People rarely get away with anything on this board - even the Mods LOL.

But they are retrospective....

Such a pig's ear.....

But I guess this will be really good for players like Ryan P and Evan Hoyt who have clocked up big wins in the ITF 15k circuit.

(And Lloyd and Ryan S and a couple of others? trying to think who else did well......)

That's what I was wondering, Michael.

No mention of ITF rankings.....

What purpose do they really serve now? As it stands, though, they are still there for the reserved ranking slots in the higher event main draws. But it doesn't make sense....it's just duplication, apart from at the very lowest end (i.e. the quali rounds for 15ks)

And, yes, almost amusing that the argument to curtail them to reflect economic reality (which it never did, as you'd have had to go down to about 250) has just gone out the window

However, overall, good !

RedSquirrel wrote:

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From the statement

To provide continuity to players, ITF ranking points will be awarded in $15,000 and $25,000 qualifying rounds and a player's ITF ranking will continue to be valid for acceptance purposes after ATP or WTA ranked players.

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Well, this is just face saving, to avoid having to acknowledge, although it's obvious now, that the whole think has been a giant, farcical failure. The ITF points for these q rounds are negligible, so people will end up with 20 ITF points, once the higher level points fall away (and they haven't said when that will happen. Whether they will allow existing ITF points to stand until they naturally fall away, or just remove all the ITF points which are replaced by WTA points). Whatever they do, the ITF points will disappear altogether by the year end, and let's hope, that is indeed that for now with the wholly misconceived dual ranking system.