Transition tour

Strongbow · All-time great

Transition tour

Strongbow · All-time great

Latest Oer predictions for 7/1/2019

Strongbow · All-time great

Transition tour rankings for men (>50 ITF points)

https://live-tennis.eu/en/itf-men-live-ranking

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Canada have announced they have cancelled ALL their men's ITF Futures events for next year:

https://tennis.life/2018/10/25/all-futures-tournaments-in-canada-cancelled-for-2019/

Strongbow · All-time great

Coup Droit wrote:
Canada have announced they have cancelled ALL their men's ITF Futures events for next year:

https://tennis.life/2018/10/25/all-futures-tournaments-in-canada-cancelled-for-2019/

Correct link - their view - which may be right. https:tennis.life/2018/10/25/all-futures-tournaments-in-canada-cancelled-for-2019

The path longer, options fewer

-- Edited by Strongbow on Thursday 25th of October 2018 10:49:23 PM

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes, it will help the transition tour to actually have a reasonable number of tournaments.

Think just about everyone, participants and observers, will be joining Michael Downey in asap hoping to "gain real-life learning against a revised circuit structure."

So much uncertainty for these starting out. Some seem to say it will help some of the players with real potential push through, others like in the article suggest not.

indiana · Tennis legend

Nowadays I just read about the changes to do with reducing the number of so called pro tennis players as if for some reason that is some laudable aim just in itself.

But didn't such changes come about after an investigation into betting related problems and the changes in some way meant to sort out many of the issues at lower levels

But this is hardly mentioned now. I guess less players and matches means less betting at lower levels but are transition tournaments somehow going to be less open to betting and associated issues ranging from courtsiding to possible full scale corruption? Are these tournaments going to much less accessible than the old futures tournaments?

-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 25th of October 2018 11:29:32 PM

Strongbow · All-time great

indiana wrote:
Nowadays I just read about the changes to do with reducing the number of so called pro tennis players as if for some reason that is some laudable aim just in itself.

But didn't such changes come about after an investigation into betting related problems and the changes in some way meant to sort out many of the issues at lower levels

But this is hardly mentioned now. I guess less players and matches means less betting at lower levels but are transition tournaments somehow going to be less open to betting?

As far as reduced number of players - the LTA have managed that already

The Transition Tour events will have even fewer officials - to keep costs down.

With less supervision - there is more scope for corruption. Brave new world biggrin

RedSquirrel · Satellite level

OER now have live ITF rankings for men.

http://www.openerarankings.com/Home?Race=5&noPos=1&Cnt=GBR

There are some large differences between OER and livetennis.eu, but that is because as far as I can tell live-tennis.eu are using the points structure included in the February announcement, which is different from the points structure announced during the summer and on which the official shadow rankings are based.

RedSquirrel · Satellite level

Itf rankings are now on the ITF site
www.itftennis.com/procircuit/rankings/rankings-list/players.aspx

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Words from Mark Petchey:

ITF:

"However old you are, whatever the circumstances, wherever you are in the world, tennis is a sport for everyone...Just ask these 5-year-old Ugandan primary school students."

Petchey:

"But if they dont make it into the Too 100 juniors and then do well before their 19th Birthday how will they continue to get a chance of going Pro now the Transition Tour is in place with its restricted qualies draws?"
"When you are that young and good thats why you play. You dream. You also just believe the system is there to give you a chance. For many that wont be the case now"

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Words from Mark Petchey:

ITF:

"However old you are, whatever the circumstances, wherever you are in the world, tennis is a sport for everyone...Just ask these 5-year-old Ugandan primary school students."

Petchey:

"But if they dont make it into the Too 100 juniors and then do well before their 19th Birthday how will they continue to get a chance of going Pro now the Transition Tour is in place with its restricted qualies draws?"
"When you are that young and good thats why you play. You dream. You also just believe the system is there to give you a chance. For many that wont be the case now"

Mark Petchey has made/retweeted a number of posts critical of the new system and he has a point. It is not working for so many players.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Well, to be fair, I guess it's a little early to say how well it's working overall. And players will always need a little time to adjust to the new system.

But he's a man who knows his tennis, that's for sure, so very valid concerns......

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

In the men's ITF rankings, 28/01/19, the only move to note is:

Jack Draper +4 to 77

wolf · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Well, to be fair, I guess it's a little early to say how well it's working overall.

I can tell you now if it saves you time, it's sh1t.