Paul Jubb

M_Turner04 · Social player

Paul Jubb

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

No idea MT, but Paul's a college student in the States so I assume he's going back to start his second year quite soon and more focused on that than the ranking itself.

(NB maybe a mod could put this in the player threads section)

Good to have a thread for Paul - he's currently our highest ranked 1999-born player and had a brilliant summer.

Given you're opened up a specific thread for him, I've copied and pasted the info about him from the July Lithuania thread, just for completeness:

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"Part of what has always attracted me to Paul Jubb is his story.

He lost his parents when a small child, was brought up by his grandma on a council estate in Hull, has never had the means of other players, has had to rely on receiving heavily subsidised lessons, (the Yorkshire LTA were very helpful, I believe), the help of other parents for travel, and - especially - very dedicated and caring coaches.

With a background like that, he's an amazingly humble and hard-working lad - and plays a super game of tennis.

In anyone deserves to do well, he does.

PS Most of this is all on a public website so I don't think it's giving out private information."

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Paul recently won the Carolinas regionals and is due to play his first Challenger a $75K at Chartlotesville next week. The S.Carolina team facilitate him playing pro tennis during the Autumn ie. positively encourage it for his development. Hopefully a bit of Challenger tennis will be the ideal warm up for the ITA fall nationals.

Nix · Futures level

Thanks for the update Oakland. I think quite a few of us are really rooting for Paul!

JonH · All-time great

Looks like Paul missed cut in charlottesville, last entry in qualies was at 612.

Is he down to play any others?

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Bit disappointed for him, I got my information from the South Carolina game****s mens tennis twitter account and a link to an article written about Paul for @MyUTA.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Again a nice piece on Paul published by game**** on line, the South Carolina coaches didnt know much about him when they came to the U.K. to scout players at Wimbledon but following word of mouth recommendations went up to visit Paul. Essentially they were interested given his achievements in junior tennis despite lack of opportunity and his conviction that if that lack of opportunity were redressed in the right environment he would be better than his contemporaries. He goes on to identify his areas for development and focus for next year ie. strength and conditioning and serve. After his 22-2 Futures run this summer, if he can lift himself to competing and being competitive in challengers while in college we have a player on our hands.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Such sensible coaches. And one that so many federations should follow.

I often had arguments with one particular guy in the FFT who insisted on judging kids by their overall, absolute standard. 'But if they've played five days a week, with every known advantage, where's the upside?' was my mantra.

Am so pleased for Paul - everything you read about him is just inspiring - mind you, expect he has his off days too

indiana · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Such sensible coaches. And one that so many federations should follow.

I often had arguments with one particular guy in the FFT who insisted on judging kids by their overall, absolute standard. 'But if they've played five days a week, with every known advantage, where's the upside?' was my mantra.

Am so pleased for Paul - everything you read about him is just inspiring - mind you, expect he has his off days too

Indeed. As well as my repeated interest in "how good is their current best?" goes "how much is their potential upside?"

And I'd say that the two are linked. In that less consistent opportunity leaves players likely less consistent in producing near their best and also with more general upside. Strange to me that someone in the FFT and apparently folk in the LTA so often appear to not recognise these and really take a punt with such a player coming through later from less privileged backgrounds and less played from age 4 or 5. Indeed maybe not such a punt as against more staying just with these with ingrained advantages from an early age. Especially, if like the LTA, you are looking for 'elite'.

JonH · All-time great

I sort of like the old Soviet block method (hear me out) whereby they selected good raw athletes and then determined the sport they should go for. Lets get people who are generally good and athletic and then lets teach them technical skills to make them excel in their sport. And lets not worry about background or wealth, lets just hot house and train them to be the best they can be,

But of course lets not go down the PED's route in doing so!

Nix · Futures level

game****sonline.com/news/2019/4/25/untitled-story.aspx

Paul seems to be doing really well in his university career, breaking records for his university as a freshman and for his win percentage playing number one for South Carolina. Great effort Paul.

Michael D · All-time great

Nix wrote:
game****sonline.com/news/2019/4/25/untitled-story.aspx

Paul seems to be doing really well in his university career, breaking records for his university as a freshman and for his win percentage playing number one for South Carolina. Great effort Paul.

What's a true freshman as opposed to a ? freshman?

christ · Futures level

Michael D wrote:
Nix wrote:
game****sonline.com/news/2019/4/25/untitled-story.aspx

Paul seems to be doing really well in his university career, breaking records for his university as a freshman and for his win percentage playing number one for South Carolina. Great effort Paul.
What's a true freshman as opposed to a ? freshman?

In American college sports a student has four years of eligibility to represent their institution, but they dont have to use these years consecutively; they can opt to take a year out (a redshirt). They can do this in any year, but subsequent to that redshirt year they gain the descriptor redshirt in place of true for their eligibility year (freshman, sophomore, junior or senior).

Hence a true freshman is actually using their first year of eligibility in their first year of college .

I think.

-- Edited by christ on Friday 26th of April 2019 01:55:04 PM

-- Edited by christ on Friday 26th of April 2019 01:56:27 PM

Michael D · All-time great

christ wrote:
Michael D wrote:
Nix wrote:
game****sonline.com/news/2019/4/25/untitled-story.aspx

Paul seems to be doing really well in his university career, breaking records for his university as a freshman and for his win percentage playing number one for South Carolina. Great effort Paul.
What's a true freshman as opposed to a ? freshman?
In American college sports a student has four years of eligibility to represent their institution, but they dont have to use these years consecutively; they can opt to take a year out (a redshirt). They can do this in any year, but subsequent to that redshirt year they gain the descriptor redshirt in place of true for their eligibility year (freshman, sophomore, junior or senior).

I think.

-- Edited by christ on Friday 26th of April 2019 01:55:04 PM

Oh wow, thanks, I think I just about understand that...

Oakland2002 · All-time great

They can also grey shirt a year if they get injured and retain that years eligibility

Generally the University programme records dont really matter that much unless its one of the top top programmes like for example USC, UCLA, Georgia, Virginia, Stanford, Cal, Ohio State, relatively few programmes have had players that really are focusing on a pro career and University of South Carolina are a developing programme in that respect.