Week 24 - ITF ($100k) - Manchester, Grass

the addict · Tennis legend

Week 24 - ITF ($100k) - Manchester, Grass

Jiwan · Club Coach

The standard in this match is really quite high now. Katy breaks *4-3. Can she hold on?

Jiwan · Club Coach

Katy now serving for the match *5-4

Sim · County player

Michael D wrote:
Helen40 wrote:
Thanks Indy and CD, I get it now, but I'll probably forget which way round the number go or above 1 is good or bad in the decimal system.
I must admit I didn't understand it fully either. I didn't understand the bit about getting your stake back, ie I couldn't see why if the odds were 1/10 you would bet at all, as it seemed to me you were losing money, ie only getting £1 back for £10 staked, rather than £1 + £10 = £11 as Indy noted.
But so in CD's example of the 6/4 (or 1.5) odds, that means you'd get £6 back for every £4 invested, plus your stake back ie £6 + £4 = £10 pounds. This still confuses me a bit though because then you are actually getting back 2.5 x your original stake not 1.5 x....

Think of it as how much you are winning (or gain) . So you win/gain £6 for betting £4 which is £1.50 for every £1 so 1.5

Sim · County player

Meanwhile Naomi has lost the 1st set on tiebreak 7-6(5)

Jiwan · Club Coach

Too many mistakes and it's back to 5-5

Jiwan · Club Coach

having served for the match a few minutes ago Katy will serve to stay in it *5-6

Jiwan · Club Coach

Katy will be very disappointed in the end result, she loses 3-6 7-5 7-5. There were parts of the match that had thrilling rallies and fantastic winners. the difference? Serve and errors

the addict · Tennis legend

Nicole may be ranked 109, and pretty static around that level, but as Jiwan says, the only real difference is the serve and errors. 10 DF is far too many.
Great improvement in Katy's game since I last saw her play live a couple of years ago though.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Naomi looks to have been well beaten in the end, 6-1 second set. Such disappointment the way both of those matches have ended as the draw would have opened up for both of them. Looks like it will just be the 2 progressing from the all Brit clashes unless Emily can pull off a shock which she hasn't really looked like doing in recent weeks.

I'd say now in terms of WC's, taking everything into account - ages, wins on grass, form, previous handouts etc. if they were going to offer 4 WCs then it would be Boulter, Taylor, Dart and Swan. 5 and then add Broady, 6 and then Katy.

Strong chance that Manchester is won by a non Brit or already qualified for Wimbledon, so I think it'll be the aforementioned 5, Mattek Sands and then Ilkley and Manchester winners if required, Katy might get the nod if one of those grass winners are already in Wimbledon. Looks a decent effort and improved performance from Katy but you kind of feel she needed a run here.

hoots · Intermediate Club Player

Thoroughly enjoyed Katy d and Gibbs match. Katy did well but served poorly in third set. Lots of long rallies. Very encouraging performance despite losing. Naomi Broady was sadly pretty dismal. The second set was a non event. She had the trainer out three times but the result was never in doubt.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Hmm, perhaps there was an injury issue with pulling out of Surbiton last week and the MTO's, but she's lost to people worse than Jabeur in recent weeks / months, so it probably wouldn't have made a difference.

I certainly hope that Boulter or Taylor get priority of a Birmingham MDWC over her should they want it.

the addict · Tennis legend

I was thinking during the match that if Katy could win, she'd be a dead cert for a Wimby MDWC. She certainly shows that she can compete at a higher level.

But she still needs to work on that serve. The contrast with Beth and Eden is quite noticeable.

PaulM · Tennis legend

Katy is deserving of a WC in my view. Under the old rule she'd have been given one and I think she should get a shot.

indiana · Tennis legend

Hopefully Katy D will get a Wimbledon MD WC, given how much she has pushed on this year, been a real part of 'the 5' that have made great progress, and performed again pretty well today against a tough opponent. But yes, she must be the most vulnerable of the 5. And personally I think Naomi will be absolutely fine for a MD WC, even after today, and her elsewhere discussed lack of past success with them.

So Katy's hope must be that they don't come up with 3 non Brits ahead of her. Not sure that Ilkley comes into the equation with the main initial WC announcement on Tuesday or Wednesday of next week and doubt they would hold one back for a possible non direct entrant winning that especially this year. I think it is just the Surbiton and Manchester titles that have the WC available for a title winner that needs it ( and Surbiton winner, Riske, doesn't need one ).