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Week 24 - ITF ($100k) - Manchester, Grass


Very impressed with Katy and Harriet's doubles win. Hardly put a foot wrong. Harriet dominated from the back of the court and Katy was pretty good at the net.
EWS was a tight match, but lacked real quality and was decided by a double fault at 9-9 in the MTB.

Alicia doesn't look like a natural grass court player and Miriam kept the ball in court and the errors kept coming.

The best match of the day was between the Claire Liu and the young Ukrainian. Both had reached junior Wimbledon finals, so not sure why the match was put on court 1.
The Ukrainian had a very attacking game compared to Liu who was outstanding defensively and had no major weapons. Defence came out on top.

Tomorrow I'll predict that Eden will beat Beth. Naomi will win as will Harriet. Katy has a chance. Emily A and Sam will bow out.

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paulisi wrote:

Very impressed with Katy and Harriet's doubles win. Hardly put a foot wrong. Harriet dominated from the back of the court and Katy was pretty good at the net.
EWS was a tight match, but lacked real quality and was decided by a double fault at 9-9 in the MTB.

Alicia doesn't look like a natural grass court player and Miriam kept the ball in court and the errors kept coming.

The best match of the day was between the Claire Liu and the young Ukrainian. Both had reached junior Wimbledon finals, so not sure why the match was put on court 1.
The Ukrainian had a very attacking game compared to Liu who was outstanding defensively and had no major weapons. Defence came out on top.

Tomorrow I'll predict that Eden will beat Beth. Naomi will win as will Harriet. Katy has a chance. Emily A and Sam will bow out.


 Agree with you about the ''best match of the day''. It's the first time I've seen Dayana Yastremska. I'm sure it won't be the last. She was good to watch and also played well later in the doubles-the last match on Centre Court . One thing both amused and slightly puzzled me was the strange noise[almost like a 'mwaa'] that she uttered every time she won a point.  



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Q3: BARNETT, Alicia (GBR) 609 lost to BOLKVADZE, Mariam (GEO) 8 467 4-6 2-6
Q3: RICHARDSON, Eden (GBR) UNR def ALLEN, Victoria (GBR) UNR 6-2 6-3

R1: APPLETON, Emily (GBR) WC 613 v BOUZKOVA, Marie (CZE) 172 CH=157 29/1/18
R1: GREY, Sarah Beth (GBR) WC 554 v RICHARDSON, Eden (GBR) Q UNR
R1: BROADY, Naomi (GBR) 7 122 v JABEUR, Ons (TUN) 180 CH=83 2/10/17
H2H 0-1 Woking 2012 Jabeur 3-6 7-5 2-6

R1: DUNNE, Katy (GBR) 215 v GIBBS, Nicole (USA) 4 109 CH=68 25/7/16
R1: DART, Harriet (GBR) 198 v RADUCANU, Emma (GBR) WC 883
R1: MURRAY, Samantha (GBR) WC 483 v KUMKHUM, Luksika (THA) 2 94 CH=85 2014

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Ace Ventura wrote:

That really is good news. It's not too often you want to see an all GB clash in the early rounds but when you're around 600 or above in the rankings of a 100k field then it helps. IF Naomi can see off Ons then we have a quarter finalist.


Indeed a huge 13 points points for either Beth or Eden ( with Eden having 6 already from qualifying ).

Up to around WR 500 for Beth or a ranking not that far off WR 800 for Eden.



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Big points at stake, Obviously significant for both but looking at the odds quoted earlier I know exactly where my money would be.

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Odds are up for tomorrow:

Naomi 6/5 vs Jabeur 8/13
Grey 1/3 vs Richardson 9/4
Dart 2/9 vs Raducanu 3/1
Dunne 11/4 vs Gibbs 1/4
Murray 7/1 vs Kumkhum 1/16
Appleton 11/2 vs Bouzkova 1/10

So no Brits in any of the 4 non all GB matches are favourites to come through. Really hope Naomi in particular can as if she does, she should reach the QF at least and after missing Surbiton last week, she could really do with a run here.

There has been numerous upsets so far on the grass so hopefully that trend can continue.



-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Tuesday 12th of June 2018 07:27:52 PM


 out of interest why is jabeur favourite against Broady? 



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The one that caught my eye was Emma being as short as 3/1 vs Harriet. She's very good but that doesn't look value. She'll no doubt go and win now !



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Most of the odds have remained the same but Eden came into 6/4 a few hours after I posted that and she is now 5/4 (SBG 4/7) so that's quite a big change.

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I still don't understand betting odds What does 6/4, 5/4 mean?

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Is there any live streaming for this tournament as there was last year? And if there is does anyone have the link?

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Helen40 wrote:

I still don't understand betting odds What does 6/4, 5/4 mean?


 I do all mine off the decimal system (betting sites offer you the choice of either decimal or fractional) - it's way easier.

But just to explain:

6/4 means if you put 40p on as a bet, and you win, then you win 60p. (because for every 4p you get 6p)

In decimal betting, this would be listed as 1.5 because you win your money back plus half as much again.

i.e. 40p x 1.5 is 60p



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Helen40 wrote:

I still don't understand betting odds What does 6/4, 5/4 mean?


6/4 means that for every £4 say that you bet, you stand to win £6 ( plus get your stake back )

However, if a player is favoured to win, eg like Bouzkova strongly against Appleton at 1/10, then for every £10 you stake you'ed only win £1 ( and get your stake back ) but would lose that £10 stake if they lost.

Essentially the higher the first number compared to the second the less chance the bookies are giving the player and the more you can potentially win for a given stake,

In the odds above, in the GB vs Pesky matches, all the peskies are given more chance of winning than the Brits.

There's probably Google places that can do better than I have there   

Edit : at least I basically agree with CD although with the 6/4 they are just a skinflint and only betting 40p to potentially win 60p.

 



-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 13th of June 2018 08:00:15 AM

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Thanks Indy and CD, I get it now, but I'll probably forget which way round the number go or above 1 is good or bad in the decimal system.

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Helen40 wrote:

Thanks Indy and CD, I get it now, but I'll probably forget which way round the number go or above 1 is good or bad in the decimal system.


I must admit I didn't understand it fully either. I didn't understand the bit about getting your stake back, ie I couldn't see why if the odds were 1/10 you would bet at all, as it seemed to me you were losing money, ie only getting £1 back for £10 staked, rather than £1 + £10 = £11 as Indy noted. 

But so in CD's example of the 6/4 (or 1.5) odds, that means you'd get £6 back for every £4 invested, plus your stake back ie £6 + £4 = £10 pounds. This still confuses me a bit though because then you are actually getting back 2.5 x your original stake not 1.5 x.... 

 



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I didn't understand the decimal odds until you explained it, then it was obvious. Seeing 5.25 and 1.69 for two players in a match was confusing me.

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