Battle for the top ( women )

JonH · All-time great

Battle for the top ( women )

vohor · Grand Slam Champion

Could do with Svitolina winning her next two matches then....go, Elina! :)

the addict · Tennis legend

Elina beats Elena - one down !

And at the top, Pliskova lost, so Simona and Elina are both a step closer

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

JonH wrote:
Garcia is into the last 8 after a comfortable win today. Looks like her late run of form will take this battle a little further.

I said at the time Jo was fortunate to beat Garcia at Wimbledon and I believe going forward Garcia is the better player. On form she has as perfect a game as you can get in women's tennis. I expect to see her challenging next year for Slams.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Jaggy1876 wrote:
JonH wrote:
Garcia is into the last 8 after a comfortable win today. Looks like her late run of form will take this battle a little further.
I said at the time Jo was fortunate to beat Garcia at Wimbledon and I believe going forward Garcia is the better player. On form she has as perfect a game as you can get in women's tennis. I expect to see her challenging next year for Slams.

You and Andy both smile

Although she's said that Andy's comments have been a bit of a weight around her neck....

But, yes, she's always been my favourite French women (of her generation). (You can keep Cornet, Kiki, etc.). Great tennis. And a nice person (in a classy, slightly reserved sort of way).

But got to root for Jo to get the eighth place, it's the British tennis forum after all smile

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Of course Coup Droit, I agree but naturally if she were to lose out it's not too bad a replacement.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

The latest update for the ATP/WTA Live App now has the Women's race to Singapore for singles and that other sport added now which is handy for easy access.

adz1983 · Intermediate Club Player

Svitolina serving for Jo to go to Singapore....

kundalini · Specialist Reporter + Intermediate Club Player

Garcia still alive after a nervy final set that went to the tiebreak. Svitolina served for the match twice in the final set yet barely won a point in those games, then had mp in the tiebreak during a bizarre spell of big serving from both players.

Only her 2nd top 10 win this year, with 2 over players ranked 11-20. 11 losses against top 20 opponents, only 2 of which were 3 set matches. Her schedule in 2017 has probably hindered her chances of making the top 8, with some strange choices, visiting Kuala Lumpur prior to Indian Wells then going back on to the clay after Wimbledon when she was hardly that impressive during the main clay season.

JoKo 4 top 10 wins and 5 against players ranked 11-20 this year.

-- Edited by kundalini on Friday 6th of October 2017 05:11:40 PM

indiana · Tennis legend

Garcia is becoming a tad annoying but still rather impressive to win through like that after all the matches she's won. I guess it's momentum vs accumulation and could continue to be so.

So it will go beyond Beijing.

1) If Garcia exits to Kvitova in the SF, the post Beijing race points will be : Konta 3610, Garcia 3185, still 425 points behind and a lot still to do. Allowing for her two lowest counters being dropped to let new ones in, Garcia would have to win the Moscow Premier and reach an International final next week even if Jo adds zero. It doesn't work if she reverses these.

3185 -+ ( 180 + 470 ) - ( 95 + 100 ) = 3640 and so beating 3610

2) If Garcia is runner up, the post Beijing points will be : Konta 3610, Garcia 3445, so just 165 points behind, If Konta doesn't add Garcia can do this in just one further event:

Winning an International title: 3445 + 280 - 95 = 3630
Reaching the Moscow Premier final: 3445 + 305 - 95 = 3655
Or some combination from the two, though bearing in mind she'd then have to drop her 100 point counter as well..

3) If Garcia wins the Beijing title, she moves ahead so has the ball in her court: Konta 3610, Garcia 3795, 185 points ahead. With Konta definitely not playing next week at least, even if Garcia scored not a further point after a title win this week, Konta would need to reach the Moscow Premier final.

3610 + 305 - 55 = 3860

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Well worked out Indiana, that simplifies it as much as possible. Must have taken you a while to work that out but cheers for doing it.

kundalini · Specialist Reporter + Intermediate Club Player

Simona gets to no 1.

Michael D · All-time great

kundalini wrote:
Simona gets to no 1.

And I see she has beaten Ostapenka to do do... Well congratulations to her, she deserves it, even if I'm sure what she would really like most is that first grand slam win, and the more critical match against Ostapenko in the French Open final will still really rankle with Halep.

the addict · Tennis legend

Garcia marches on,beats Kvitova 6-3 7-5
Still a lot to do to catch Jo, Halep in fine form first, and Sharapova first round next week (if she doen't win tomorrow)

indiana · Tennis legend

Big big step for Caroline today though.

My scenario 1) above remained a very big ask, but scenario 2) that at worst she has moved on to is much more manageable. She could lose to both Halep and Sharapova and still make Singapore, and she would then have about a week of recovery time before Moscow. Though yes it would leave Jo still a fair bit ahead and would be in her ( rather fragile at the moment ) hands if they both then played the Moscow Premier.

Trust Simona will remain very focused after having confirmed #1. No time to go out on the lash.