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Jamie Murray is currently WR4


Hi all,

First to say that I have no gripe against Jamie, per se, other than that he is clearly overendowed in testicles, to the tune of two, to be of interest to me. I mainly follow the women's game...

 

So can any ATP follower explain why current ATP doubles WR4 Jamie Murray, see here...

 

http://live-tennis.eu/en/atp-doubles-live-ranking

 

or here...

 

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/rankings/doubles

 

... is constantly being promoted as the wold doubles WR1? As here...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/dec/30/jamie-murray-ill-say-it-andy-is-not-the-easist-person-to-instantly-warm-to

 

I realise that it makes a good story for both brothers to be WR1 simultaneosly, but there are facts.



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Jamie and Bruno ended the year as Race #1 pair based on points collected as a pair, and were acknowledged as such at the 02.

Agree though that individually he is currently WR 4 in doubles (  having been WR 1 some months ago now ) and there is some pretty loose writing.

Though maybe he at least deserves not to be put in the Andy Murray section.



-- Edited by indiana on Friday 30th of December 2016 08:54:56 PM

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Honestly I see individual rankings of doubles players as having little or no value beyond that of curiosity, obviously they are a necessity in terms of organising tournaments from a logistic perspective.

Statistically they are derivative, surrogate ranks that can be combined to produce an estimate of how an individual may perform based on past team performances which may include their performances within a number of different teams.

Doubles is a team game, the most accurate data generated is that of the team, the teams win or loose so I think it is safe to Jamie is a member of the worlds number 1 doubles team in 2016. Beyond that it's all extrapolation, the nonsense that keeps, journalists, bloggers forum members and tennis fans (generic) interested in the game 90% of the time!

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Thanks for posting the guardian article an interesting read. Interesting but not suprising that the pain of constantly loosing outweighs the highs of winning in Jame's case and he is has had about as good a year as you could get.

I wonder whether Andy would say the same this year, the adulation and perceived value of being a singles grand slam champion, gold medal winner and world number one may provide enough gratification in a year where even Andy lost more championships than he won!

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