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I think that the WCs given to Mr Willis are an elegant solution to a difficult problem - how do you take last year's fairy tale hero who has done (doubtless for good reasons) very little on the professional tour since ... and honour the story that was last year while recognising the reality of this year? And I think a QWC in singles and a MD WC in doubles, where there's much less pressure, makes sense. Well done to the LTA on that one.

I also think a QWC for Jay Clarke is right. He's getting funding, so it's not the only mechanism they have to fund, as it is with the older players. And a QWC gives him the chance to shine in a context where there's every chance he will rather than releasing him into a potentially dire draw at a very young age with the full focus of the tabloid press on him. Agree with all the QWCs, actually, though would have given all the QWCs to GB players ... but we'll have to wait and see.

On the doubles front, the Skupskis were obvious, and it was clear that Klein/Salisbury would get one (see comments on that elsewhere). As noted above, like the WC to Marcus Willis and Jay Clarke. But really, it's time for Jonny O'Mara and Scott Clayton to get something, too. And it's more than rough on Luke Bambridge - who is not funded - if he is the one person who is well within the 250 mark (indeed, within 10 points of Brydan Klein) who doesn't get anything. So I hope there will be some change there, too.

As for James Ward ... well, to be contrarian, I can't begrudge it. Who knows if his comeback will succeed? If not, this could be his last Wimbledon. And if it does, this could be a stepping stone. Either way, I don't think he's taking it from anyone else; there aren't a lot of Brits in the draw; and since it's in the AELTC's gift, why not bestow a favour on someone who's known to the general public and generally well liked?


 Agree, can't begrudge Wardy the WC at all, especially in the absence of many others knocking on the door. His level is going to need to rise dramatically to even be competitive though.



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As i expected Johnny Omara& Scott Clayton hammered arguably our 2nd best A1 Pharmaceuticals doubles pairing neil pauffley & Toby Martin  6-2 6-1 in the last national club match of season 18/6 v Raynes park although we won match overall 4-2 

what baffles me is not fact that Marcus got a deserved doubles WC but why he did not get the chance when the doubles partnership won around 10 ITF titles with Lewis burton they reached c200 ATP doubles ranking but now decide to give a WC to a scratch pair hopefully they will get the chance to develop some joint tactical awareness surely in marcus case made sense to pair him with Pauffers . 

as I said jonny and Scott are a very decent doubles pair and think they deserved a chance would have been such a morale booster and opportunity to make a difference to 2 players that have denomstrated their doubles prowess

there ideally needs to be a clear criteria and how you qualify as a doubles pair for a maindraw WC 



-- Edited by A1 Pharmaceuticals LTC on Wednesday 21st of June 2017 11:01:54 AM



-- Edited by A1 Pharmaceuticals LTC on Wednesday 21st of June 2017 11:05:33 AM

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James being "known and well liked" doesn't cut it for me, sorry. Indeed nor does being an "entertainer" in Marcus's case. He qualified last year and won one MD round and has lived pretty well off it. For singles a Q WC will do.



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Agreed Indiana, it's not a popularity contest and furthermore all other slams support their juniors/ young pros.
Australian Open- De Minaur won his first match ( Jay dispatched of him yesterday)
Roland Garros - Alex Muller (who conincidentally Jay has beaten on clay!) Minaur also played here
US Open - Moh, Kozlov, Tiafoe

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indiana wrote:

James being "known and well liked" doesn't cut it for me, sorry. Indeed nor does being an "entertainer" in Marcus's case. He qualified last year and won one MD round and has lived pretty well off it.


 Agree with both Indiana 100per cent. Marcus has hardly showed the application needed and can count himself lucky this year that he is guaranteed a sizeable 4 figure sum about 8k I think for the QWC and Doubles as well.

James is struggling and if he draws a seed will be cannon fodder. 



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Marcus deserved the singles WC based on what he brought to the tournament last year 

personally I think a short list of  british WC prospects doubles and singles should get an opportunity to argue their case at a presentation 



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Oh so we are adding articulacy and presentation skills to attributes ??!!

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indiana wrote:

James being "known and well liked" doesn't cut it for me, sorry. Indeed nor does being an "entertainer" in Marcus's case. He qualified last year and won one MD round and has lived pretty well off it. For singles a Q WC will do.


 Known and well liked wouldn't cut it for me either were it not for two factors: one being what he has contributed to the GB endeavour over years and two that he is just coming back. Not only does the latter have an impact in the sense that he hasn't had the opportunity to gain the requisite ranking points this year; it also means that we're not clear whether this will (if the return doesn't work out) or won't be his last Wimbledon. And on those grounds, for the same reasons I would have supported a WC for PHM at Roland-Garros, I'm happy with one for Mr Ward here.



-- Edited by Spectator on Wednesday 21st of June 2017 11:17:36 AM

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I will be truly gutted for Jonny & Scott if they don't get something. Whilst I am delighted by the Marcus/Jay partnership, to the best of my knowledge they have only played one competitive match together. Jonny & Scott have won multiple titles as a partnership over the last 12 months and fully deserve an opportunity.

In terms of rankings, Marcus and Jay have a CR 1889 whilst Jonny and Scott have a CR 567.

And I agree that Luke deserves something as well, being ranked 169 for doubles.

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Bob in Spain wrote:

I will be truly gutted for Jonny & Scott if they don't get something. Whilst I am delighted by the Marcus/Jay partnership, to the best of my knowledge they have only played one competitive match together. Jonny & Scott have won multiple titles as a partnership over the last 12 months and fully deserve an opportunity.

In terms of rankings, Marcus and Jay have a CR 1889 whilst Jonny and Scott have a CR 567.

And I agree that Luke deserves something as well, being ranked 169 for doubles.


Doubles qWCs? 



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There are still 4 MD WC's available for the doubles - so I really hope they are holding back one for Jonny and Scott



-- Edited by the addict on Wednesday 21st of June 2017 11:56:31 AM

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Maybe for Scott Clayton and Jonny O'Mara, on the grounds that the bulk of their play has been at Futures level - though they've got some very good results and personally I'd give them the MD WC and see what happened. Other countries seem better able to tolerate an experiment where there's potential. But for Luke Bambridge, whose current rankings breakdown includes three Challenger finals and two Challenger SFs? That's the kind of record that's normally been good enough for a MD WC. I suspect they were trying his partnership with Cameron Norrie out with the two grass WCs in Challengers - and that didn't work too well. Fair enough - and maybe there's an injury or something we don't know about: I was really surprised by the bad loss to Groth and partner. But if there isn't, looking back, his partnership with Joe Salisbury was very successful, but that's not an option. They're presumably not giving out MD WCs to mixed pairings (we would, of course, not have had a Wimbledon titlist in 2012 had that been the policy), so that rules out Mitchell Krueger. Dan Evans? Liam Broady?

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indiana wrote:

Oh so we are adding articulacy and presentation skills to attributes ??!!


I agree Indy - terrible idea. 



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indiana wrote:

James being "known and well liked" doesn't cut it for me, sorry. Indeed nor does being an "entertainer" in Marcus's case. He qualified last year and won one MD round and has lived pretty well off it. For singles a Q WC will do.


 Known and well liked wouldn't cut it for me either were it not for two factors: one being what he has contributed to the GB endeavour over years and two that he is just coming back. Not only does the latter have an impact in the sense that he hasn't had the opportunity to gain the requisite ranking points this year; it also means that we're not clear whether this will (if the return doesn't work out) or won't be his last Wimbledon. And on those grounds, for the same reasons I would have supported a WC for PHM at Roland-Garros, I'm happy with one for Mr Ward here.



-- Edited by Spectator on Wednesday 21st of June 2017 11:17:36 AM


Sorry spec - the guy has not won a match on the main tour or won a Davis Cup match for 2 years plus. He has already had 8WC to Wimbledon alone - the first being back in 2009 having turned pro in 2006. So he has had plenty of opportunity imho so the fact that he has only just coming back (plus his ranking was slipping anyway before he took time out last September) cuts no ice with me either. I've never made any secret of the fact that he is not one of my favourites shall we say and I realise it maybe his livelihood. But it doesn't surprise me that he would come crawling out of the woodwork at this time of the year. Surely he should have been made to qualify - no wonder I keep thinking GSMDWC's should be scrapped. At least Willis earned the right to be there 12 months ago.



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indiana wrote:

James being "known and well liked" doesn't cut it for me, sorry. Indeed nor does being an "entertainer" in Marcus's case. He qualified last year and won one MD round and has lived pretty well off it. For singles a Q WC will do.


 Known and well liked wouldn't cut it for me either were it not for two factors: one being what he has contributed to the GB endeavour over years and two that he is just coming back. Not only does the latter have an impact in the sense that he hasn't had the opportunity to gain the requisite ranking points this year; it also means that we're not clear whether this will (if the return doesn't work out) or won't be his last Wimbledon. And on those grounds, for the same reasons I would have supported a WC for PHM at Roland-Garros, I'm happy with one for Mr Ward here.


But it doesn't surprise me that he would come crawling out of the woodwork at this time of the year.


That's grossly unfair, not to mention offensive in its implications.  It's the Wimbledon Committee which decides which of the players should be offered a wild card.  You'd have been on safer ground challenging part of Wimbledon's contention that "wild cards are usually offered on the basis of past performance at Wimbledon or to increase British interest".



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