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Boys and Girls: Roland Garros, France, Clay, Grade A, (Week 22)


Jodie's 1st set going the distance 6-6, 3*-3

3-6, 5-6, 5-7 :(



-- Edited by vohor on Friday 27th of May 2016 02:19:52 PM

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Now 5-5 in the second set

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I misread your post and though Jodie had lost.

Still going in a tight second set.

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First break of the set to the Italian 5-6*, Jodie breaks straight back 6-6...

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lost 7-6 7-6....

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Jodie loses 7-6(5), 7-6(3), making her about the unluckiest loser in the world of tennis 2016.

She won her previous 22 sets by a straight 2 games minimum; and her current ranking of 32 should see her accepted as the 25th highest ranked player in an acceptance list of 46. In the time that the ITF hasn't updated its lists, she's gone and taken a dozen GCSEs. Iniquitous system, that recognises results from 55 weeks previous, and discounts the last 3 weeks.

She should be first in line for a Lucky Loser ticket.

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Very unfortunate for Jodie, but as far as the entry lists are concerned there is certainly a good argument for them coming out some weeks in advance with clearly defined entry dates ( and the rankings thus that they are based on ), allowing players to firm up plans as they see where they stand.

To me only how far ahead these lists should be is open to argument, but leaving them later doesn't help such as flight deals in amongst general planning. And it would clearly be a nonsense to update the order after the entry lists come out leaving far too much uncertainty.



-- Edited by indiana on Friday 27th of May 2016 05:03:50 PM

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wimdledont wrote:


She should be first in line for a Lucky Loser ticket.


 The rules are "Lucky Losers shall be selected as follows: The order of players with an ITF junior ranking or professional ranking ATP 850 or better or WTA 500 or better shall be randomly drawn, thereafter the order of the unranked players shall be randomly drawn."



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Oh, well, blind luck it is then. She's still down on the entry list for Eastbourne, but probably too late and too upset to play.

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In the adult ranks it's worse. The points from last week's Korean 25k where Harriet made the final weren't added this week, because...? won't be added next week either, because the French Open, because....?, then they can be used for entry lists to tournaments in the first week of Wimbledon, which is 6 weeks after the tournament was actually played. With the extra 50 points added, the Korean winner of that tournament could go up from WR252 to WR213 -good enough for Wimbledon qualifiers, but too late, if it takes the powers-that-be 6 weeks to do some simple adding up. She'll probably spend the week of Wimbledon qualies playing a 10k in Korea, or at a 25k somewhere in Europe; while her place in Roehampton is taken by some woman with less ranking points, who very pôssibly hasn't won a match in 2016, but is preferred on the basis of some good results in July-Sep 2015. It's a system that is remarkably prejudicial to in-form players, rapidly improving players and, most annoyingly of all, all the young players.

Rant over.

Gutted for Jodie. I think she's been cheated.

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On the other hand she is British and her recent excellent progress will probably get her a Wimbledon qualies wildcard as well as her main draw entry by right to the juniors main draw. Unlike a non British player who would not get that wildcard. So there's that....

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I do agree that in this day and age, when tournament results from around the world can be collated so easily, there is no need for the one week delay in adding ranking points for senior ITFs up to and including 25Ks. I believe there is no delay for juniors.

Otherwise, while Jodie has been very unlucky on a number of mutually exclusive counts she has not been cheated, specifically not cheated by the very understandable practice of having ordered entry lists a number of weeks before tournaments.

I personally cannot see how letting late results count to or change the order would not result in real inconvenience if not a bit of chaos for the planning reasons I have given earlier unless anyone has any alternative practical solution? There are enough doubts for players just outside cut-offs without later and/or moveable lists!

I think there are reasons that I have not previously seen entry list dates being argued / debated. Probably because there is no clear better way.



-- Edited by indiana on Friday 27th of May 2016 11:12:36 PM

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Jodie has just been a bit unlucky, the rules are clear from the get go and she has done very well to almost win through (after how many GCSE's!). It puts her in a great place for the rest of the summer with only tennis to focus on.

Well played!

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Bad luck Jodie; GL on the grass :)

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Yoiks! To cap it all...

Happy Birthday, Jodie!



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The MDs are out now

Ryan is drawn vs Louis Wessels, and Jay plays the 13th seed Wu Yibing

Emily gets the 4th seed Anastasia Potapova, and Katie is up against Caty McNally

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