Jay Clarke

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

RE: Jay Clarke

Priesty · Challenger level

Cheers Bob wink

philwrig · Hall of fame

Bob in Spain wrote:
Priesty wrote:
If I've done my calculations correctly (of which I'm not certain) Jay's run to the Wimbledon FQR should put him up to the 330 mark. At just short of his 19th birthday how does this compare with Kyle's rankings trajectory?

Muzza at about 11 months older than Jay was 317 although this is probably equivalent to the 330s in today's game.
Kyle was very much the same. On his 19th birthday, Kyle was ranked was actually ranked in the 370's but had been as high has 308 about 4 months earlier. If I remember correctly, he had to take the last 3 months of the season off that year due to illness. Kyle broke into the Top 300 for the 1st time about a 6 weeks after his 19th birthday, reaching 276.

Kyle joined the rankings at 17 years and 2 months. Since then his annual birthday rankings have been

18 years : 571
19 years : 374
20 years : 191
21 years : 102
22 years : 45
Jay has shown so much promise, it would be great if he could match or even better that.

This just puts into context what a remarkable 12 months its been for Jay in terms of development of his game, and the work he's done off the court on his fitness etc., etc.,

indiana · Tennis legend

philwrig wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
Priesty wrote:
If I've done my calculations correctly (of which I'm not certain) Jay's run to the Wimbledon FQR should put him up to the 330 mark. At just short of his 19th birthday how does this compare with Kyle's rankings trajectory?

Muzza at about 11 months older than Jay was 317 although this is probably equivalent to the 330s in today's game.
Kyle was very much the same. On his 19th birthday, Kyle was ranked was actually ranked in the 370's but had been as high has 308 about 4 months earlier. If I remember correctly, he had to take the last 3 months of the season off that year due to illness. Kyle broke into the Top 300 for the 1st time about a 6 weeks after his 19th birthday, reaching 276.

Kyle joined the rankings at 17 years and 2 months. Since then his annual birthday rankings have been

18 years : 571
19 years : 374
20 years : 191
21 years : 102
22 years : 45
Jay has shown so much promise, it would be great if he could match or even better that.
This just puts into context what a remarkable 12 months its been for Jay in terms of development of his game, and the work he's done off the court on his fitness etc., etc.,

Yes, on his 18th birthday last July Jay was ranked 1603 with a then CH 1446. So it has been a comparatively huge rise.

As well as Kyle and Jay, Evo was ranked close to top 300 by his 19th birthday, being then at a CH 316. However, even totally ignoring his current situation his general trajectory from then to the top 50 was shall we say up and down and not an ideal pathway compared to Kyle's.

To give Muzza his proper credit he was ranked 317 after his first Queen's a month after his 18th birthday, at 10 to 11 months YOUNGER ( probably what was meant ) than Jay is now and three weeks later was up to 213 after his first Wimbledon. By his 19th birthday he was ranked 46 with a CH 41, so he was at a very different place from the others at 19.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Top 200 as a teenager would not be a bad place to be.

-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Wednesday 5th of July 2017 07:36:27 AM

Jimmy09 · Intermediate Club Player

Everyone takes their own path i dont think you could compare people to much. They mature and grow up at different ages. I think Jay is ticking along just fine

Priesty · Challenger level

indiana wrote:
philwrig wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
Priesty wrote:
If I've done my calculations correctly (of which I'm not certain) Jay's run to the Wimbledon FQR should put him up to the 330 mark. At just short of his 19th birthday how does this compare with Kyle's rankings trajectory?

Muzza at about 11 months older than Jay was 317 although this is probably equivalent to the 330s in today's game.
Kyle was very much the same. On his 19th birthday, Kyle was ranked was actually ranked in the 370's but had been as high has 308 about 4 months earlier. If I remember correctly, he had to take the last 3 months of the season off that year due to illness. Kyle broke into the Top 300 for the 1st time about a 6 weeks after his 19th birthday, reaching 276.

Kyle joined the rankings at 17 years and 2 months. Since then his annual birthday rankings have been

18 years : 571
19 years : 374
20 years : 191
21 years : 102
22 years : 45
Jay has shown so much promise, it would be great if he could match or even better that.
This just puts into context what a remarkable 12 months its been for Jay in terms of development of his game, and the work he's done off the court on his fitness etc., etc.,

Yes, on his 18th birthday last July Jay was ranked 1603 with a then CH 1446. So it has been a comparatively huge rise.
As well as Kyle and Jay, Evo was ranked close to top 300 by his 19th birthday, being then at a CH 316. However, even totally ignoring his current situation his general trajectory from then to the top 50 was shall we say up and down and not an ideal pathway compared to Kyle's.
To give Muzza his proper credit he was ranked 317 after his first Queen's a month after his 18th birthday, at 10 to 11 months YOUNGER ( probably what was meant ) than Jay is now and three weeks later was up to 213 after his first Wimbledon. By his 19th birthday he was ranked 46 with a CH 41, so he was at a very different place from the others at 19.

Oops yes, that was what I meant hmm

interesting that Ofner, who squeaked past Jay in the FQR hammered Bellucci in his first round match. Looking forward to seeing how he fares against Jack Sock.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Priesty wrote:
interesting that Ofner, who squeaked past Jay in the FQR hammered Bellucci in his first round match. Looking forward to seeing how he fares against Jack Sock.

Beat him in five. wink

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

Jay has been in Italy for a few weeks now, and is on the entry lists in Italy until at least week 34.

He seems to be doing pretty well there. Can anyone tell me if he has some Italian connection.

steven · Tennis legend

Congratulations to Jay, who has broken into the ATP singles top 300 today as expected - up 22 at 280.

Jay is exactly 7000 *days* old today and is 47 days younger than Tim Henman was when he broke into the top 300 and just 13 days older than Kyle was when he made it.

Greg Rusedski also made the top 300 at a younger age than Jay, as did (of the current GB players above him) Andy, Kyle (as mentioned above), Dan & Brydan, while Aljaz, Cam & Liam were all older than Jay is now when they made it..

flamingowings · All-time great

From instagram, Jay was practicing with Andy: "Always great to practice and learn from one of the best in the sport @andymurray #GettingBetter #TrustTheProcess #TeamC1arke"

Not sure if the get better hashtag relates to Andy or Jay though.

indiana · Tennis legend

I would guess to Jay. Though hopefully Andy getting better too.

flamingowings · All-time great

It's thanks to this forum (and partly Marcus at Wimbledon as well) that I heard of Jay. This year has sucked being an Andy fan and it's going to be pretty terrible when he stops playing but maybe, hopefully, possibly Jay could help fill that gap. He seems like a nice young man.

skibbarriz · Strong Club Player

He is. And so is Cam. And when Kyle develops something that can more discernibly be called a personality, then we'll have the 3 of them.

flamingowings · All-time great

Bit harsh on Kyle there - he seems quite shy and mild-mannered. Doesn't mean he has no personality.