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RE: Weeks 35/36 - US Open (Hard) - Andy


I could be wrong, but would be surprised if the first match were a particularly long one. Not that that helps much.

I was noticing that Anderson/Thiem - a very interesting match - is on Court 17. Thus far Thiem and Anderson have been on courts 7, 11, 13 and 15: this round is on 17. Mr Murray has been three times on Ashe; Mr Bellucci has been on 7, 13, and Ashe. It always does strike me that especially in round 4, where you are likely to get the marquee players v the very-good-but-not-yet-marquee players, the scheduling may well give an advantage to those who would already be favoured.

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He has had a brutal run and was unlucky to get players ranked in the 30's in the round of 128 and 64 ie 8/96 x 7/32 although Belucci should if the games had gone with rank be one of the lowest rank plays left.

I'm a bit torn as to what to wish for US Open win or DC (well obviously both!)

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Berdych ( playing Garcia-Lopez ) makes acquaintance with Court 17 for the second round running, having begun on Grandstand.

It is clearly effectively the number 4 court, but 13 of the 16 singles matches are on Ashe, Armstrong or Grandstand so you kinda see your place in the scheme of things.

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Oakland2002 wrote:

He has had a brutal run and was unlucky to get players ranked in the 30's in the round of 128 and 64 ie 8/96 x 7/32 although Belucci should if the games had gone with rank be one of the lowest rank plays left.

I'm a bit torn as to what to wish for US Open win or DC (well obviously both!)


Well some of us did suggest Kyrgios was a pretty awful R1 draw, but I recall you weren't much for having it, feeling for poor Nick and post match almost deriding our concerns, though with a Truth is it was bad for both.

Re Mannarino, though noting that it was another player ranked in the 30s, to be honest few folk saw him as any problem and that includes you and me !  ( and I won't repeat what CD suggested   )  I actually think we were reasonable to consider that Mannarino was less of a danger than his ranking might have suggested. Andy for whatever reasons ( the heat and head cold ? ) didn't play well in the first two sets against Mannarino, but did latterly overwhelm him.

So an interesting take now that these first two rounds were brutal.



-- Edited by indiana on Friday 4th of September 2015 10:04:32 PM

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Yep in retrospect only a fool would deny that 9 sets of tennis to make the 3rd round is less than ideal and to have had consecutive opponents ranked in the thirties in R1 and R2 statistically unlikely when there are 128 players in the draw and the seeding system means you avoid 1-32 until R3.

I do however stand by the statement that the R1 draw was much worse for Nick the Greek than Andy, as I think rather than being filled with horror on hearing the draw, Andy merely heard the dulcet tones of "bright eyes" and images of the impending slaughter of his little fury long eared antipodes friend with the potty mouth. a man who is normally allowed to hop around the early rounds of the ATP free of the threat of myxomatosis,. Young Nick ( no lets caller him thumper) merely saw Farmer Andy with his flat cap, green wellies and double barrelled shot gun coming his way. Let's face it thumper ended up in as rabbit pie pretty pronto.

Mannarino however didn't quite play his part, I really enjoyed watching him although his quirky short backswing, short stature and shuttling style was not to my wife's liking. He made way pretty pronto for the antics of a young Danny Baker in our manor as soon as her beady eyes spotted the remote. Given that last year she had returned from Wimbledon full of the joys of spring/ early summer having enjoyed an unfettered view from the front row of Mr Nadals torso during his disembowlment by Thumper this was an unforeseen and brutal response indeed to Andys second round draw.

Like you I think she would have much preferred a tall muscular lothario ranked between 80-150, in retrospect I regret my haste and lack of detail in my 2nd round analysis (but I was not alone!).

As an act of penance in the hope of an easier passage tonight/ tomorrow morning I will now go away and spend my Saturday pouring over the fine detail of the administration and delivery of a vocational training scheme requiring finely tuned motor skills and transition from competence to expert through delivery of a complex curriculum in a competive environment akin to the ATP tour.



-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Saturday 5th of September 2015 02:49:19 AM



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-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Saturday 5th of September 2015 02:51:26 AM

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At 1.25 am local, 6.25 am BST, Nadal exits , having been two sets up on Fognini.

Hopefully for Andy's sake he is finished much earlier than that tonight and with the right result !

With Ferrer, Raonic and Goffin ( retired 2 sets to 1 up ) also exiting yesterday, of the 8 top 16 seeds in the top half only 2 have actually reached the last 16, (1) Djokovic and (9) Cilic.

Feel free to fall apart, bottom half too, Andy excluded, though I rather doubt that it will.


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Chardy and Lopez aren't a huge surprise - and I'd guess that Djokovic/Cilic would be less happy about meeting Chardy than meeting Ferrer. Indeed, with a few exceptions, the top half now looks like a who's who of dangerous, erratic floaters and people on streaks. Interesting stuff. (Albeit slightly depressing; at a "players who make you want to support them" level, I hate to see Goffin lose to RBA and Nadal to Fognini!) In the bottom half, Wawrinka can't complain about his path to the quarters, but the rest of the draw is, as you say, pretty solid.



-- Edited by Spectator on Saturday 5th of September 2015 07:31:58 AM

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At 1.25 am local, 6.25 am BST, Nadal exits , having been two sets up on Fognini.

Hopefully for Andy's sake he is finished much earlier than that tonight and with the right result !


Agreed, the US Open's bizarre scheduling makes winning it so much more than being the best tennis player!  



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Think they've done better today than yesterday (though these could be famous last words). Yesterday you had to wonder about the wisdom of the night Ashe session (Serena Williams is going to 3 sets more often than not ... and Nadal/Fognini had potential) and Armstrong (Cilic/Kukushkin, Bouchard/Cibulkova AND Chardy/Ferrer to start off? What were they thinking. Not surprisingly the last match - Keys/Radwanska - was moved). Tonight's Ashe session looks better. Armstrong still has potential though, as do Grandstand and Court 17.

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Chardy and Lopez aren't a huge surprise - and I'd guess that Djokovic/Cilic would be less happy about meeting Chardy than meeting Ferrer. Indeed, with a few exceptions, the top half now looks like a who's who of dangerous, erratic floaters and people on streaks. Interesting stuff. (Albeit slightly depressing; at a "players who make you want to support them" level, I hate to see Goffin lose to RBA and Nadal to Fognini!) In the bottom half, Wawrinka can't complain about his path to the quarters, but the rest of the draw is, as you say, pretty solid.



-- Edited by Spectator on Saturday 5th of September 2015 07:31:58 AM


 

Good points regarding the remaining top half players, Spectator.

Though Bautista Agut, Djoko's next opponent, seems the very epitome of a fairly top player who beats who it looks as if he should beat and the very top players will generally be very happy to play him. Indeed Goffin seemed on course to beat him ( with Bautista Agut dutifully reaching his seeded spot and no more ) before he picked up whatever caused him to retire. 

Unless this is your time, Roberto ?  



-- Edited by indiana on Saturday 5th of September 2015 03:19:26 PM

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RBA would be one of my exceptions ... though I'd be delighted to see him play above his station for one more match.

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Glad that Gasquet is in the Federer quarter. Wish that Thiem/Anderson were there (or with Wawrinka) too.

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I quite fancy Andy against Anderson but should probably keep my opinions to myself having just jinxed him!

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Cruise control for Andy right now as he takes the 2nd set to lead 6-3 6-2

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And 7-5 in the third, a pretty comprehensive 3 set victory for Andy.

Good to see Anderson has had his serve broken once so far at the U.S. open! 69 aces. Again like Nick the Greek I see Anderson as a player who Andy holds a significant psychological advantage over, although in great form he is someone whose strengths a phenomenal serve, are negated by Andys.

He also has weaknesses and although very agile for someone so tall, his height and relative lack of mobility takes its toll if he is moved around, really struggled in the back end of the game against Djokovic at Wimbledon And NYC is hot and steamy!

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