World University Games, Gwanju 2015

centrecourt · Newbie

RE: World University Games, Gwanju 2015

Spectator · All-time great

Hurrah for them all - well done all around.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

As reported above, Joe and Darren won their men's doubles semifinal 4-6 6-3 10-8

That's close !

They play Chung and Nam (KOR) for the gold medal, so good luck lads !

Spectator · All-time great

It looks like great fun - must be a fantastic experience. But there's one thing that mystifies me. The top seed is Hyeon Chung. Is he really at university? (And it definitely is he, unless there are two tennis players who share not only a name, but also a birthdate. I checked, as I wondered if there were two of the same name)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Yes, I agree Spectator.

I posted the same question re Joe and hoped that centrecourt would explain the rules.

Because, as far as I know, Joe graduated last year and has been pretty much full time on the pro tour for the last 12 months.

You obviously need a cut-off date, and that might be earlier on in the year or whatever, but this seems like a LONG time ago . . .

goldfish · Futures qualifying

is this referring to the final match then? brilliant if so but apologies if this link doesn't work -

twitter.com/bucssport/status/619816366728613888

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Think you're right, goldfish !!!

Just looked at the site I've been using

www.gwangju2015.com/info/

and it looks like FOUR gold medals !!!

Joe and Darren won 2-6 6-3 10-8

Darren and Alex won 6-3 3-6 10-6

goldfish · Futures qualifying

Well that's just very impressive. Well done to all 3.

Josh · Challenger level

The selection criteria is on this link www.bucs.org.uk/core/core_picker/download.asp

It says: "students graduating in 2013/14 will be eligible to compete in 2015, as former students who have obtained their qualification in the academic year preceding the event"

I don't know how it works for other countries but there are often some unexpected players there.

For example the women's doubles in the last edition in 2013 was won by Pavlyuchenkova and Vesnina who have been full time on the tour for years.

Spectator · All-time great

Well done indeed! Congratulations to all.

Thanks for posting the criteria, Josh - now clear on Salisbury and seem to remember hearing somewhere that Darren Walsh (graduated 2011!) was getting a masters - is that right? Some players do study while on tour, so perhaps that's the reason for some of the other oddities.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Moving on to the Samoa Youth Commonwealth Games, congrats and good luck to Ewen Lumsden and Matthew Story who have made the semis in the boys' singles (for Scotland and Wales, respectively)

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Wednesday 9th of September 2015 08:33:58 PM

Spectator · All-time great

Well that brings back happy memories! I remember the first time that I really noticed Ms Watson - 2008 when she won the Commonwealth gold: news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7679074.stm. She's come a long way since! Good luck to the two semifinalists.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

This is very confusing:

Congrats to Guernsey's Oldfield brothers who, according to the BBC Website, won the Gold Medal in the Boys' doubles in Samoa, beating Lumsden and a Cypriot player (I don't understand how a Scot can play with a Cypriot in a national team event).

www.bbc.com/sport/0/tennis/34209538

The BBC page above also has Lumsden listed as Welsh when he's clearly Scottish.

And, most importantly, I say, 'according to the BBC' because the Samoa Youth Games website has the result the other way round:

cyg2015.jtsconsult.com/

with the Welsh pair of Hernandez and Story getting the bronze medal.

And the Scottish web page says it's not a medal event (just for Ewan?) because of the mixing of nationalities.

www3.lta.org.uk/in-your-area/Scotland/news/September-15/Silver-for-Scottish-pair-at-Commonwealth-Youth-Games/

which also has other results with medals (or not?) for Louie MacLelland and others - but I got so confused I lost the will to live...... so congrats to whoever won, whatever they won, and all the others too !

Spectator · All-time great

Well, that piece of detective work was too intriguing not to follow up. Quite extraordinary how you found all that, CD.

Playing Watson to your Holmes, I looked at the picture on the BBC website, which showed the Guernsey brothers with the medals around their neck. That looked pretty promising as evidence. But the picture also seemed to show a Welsh pair on the medal stand (at least I think I see a Welsh dragon on the red jacket to the left) and another person on the right who looked as if he might be one of the fourth place team from Anguilla. Going to the Anguilla Commonwealth Games Association confirms all of the above: www.facebook.com/AnguillaCommonwealthGamesAssociation, and indicates that before the Anguillan team played the Welsh team, they knew they were playing for 2nd or 3rd place. Which suggests that in fact, Lumsden and the Cypriot may have won, but - because they were not from the same country - been disqualified from the medals. In which case, the RUPs got the gold; the 3rd place team got silver; and the 4th place team got bronze.

This would fit all of your evidence ... and hurrah for all the winners! Nice to see three of the smaller Commonwealth countries represented. Guernsey and Anguilla can't be responsible for too many medals, one suspects. Indeed, it looks as if the doubles medal was Anguilla's only one.

-- Edited by Spectator on Saturday 12th of September 2015 01:28:10 PM