General election/politics

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

General election/politics

indiana · Tennis legend

The thing was, with Johnson it was believable !

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
Wyatt is now saying her initial tweet was a joke. Rest east

Well she certainly fooled more 'in the know' people than me.

Sorry for the false alarm folks.

indiana · Tennis legend

Conservative Leadership 1st Ballot

1. Rushi Sunak 88
2. Penny Mordaunt 67
3. Liz Truss 50
4. Kemi Badenoch 40
5. Tim Tugendhat 37
6. Suella Braverman 32
7. Nadhim Zahawi 25 - OUT
8. Jeremy Hunt 18 - OUT

Rees-Mogg and Dorries very publicly backing Truss to err carry on Johnson's legacy. Hmm, with friends like these? And been tearing into Sunak including alleging that he was in cahuts with Hunt to loan him some votes to keep him in the race. Totally denied by Sunak and Hunt. And err looking at Hunt's vote seems to rather answer that.

No doubt though there will be some switching and loaning of votes in subsequent ballot(s), quite possibly from accusers like the Rees-Mogg / Dorries camp as they assess how best to stop Sunak.

Oh, such heady principle ...

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Not sure whether this reflects badly on voters or some of the candidates, but either way, I thought this was quite funny.

5% of voters say they know "a great deal" about the Conservative candidates Suella Braverman, Kemi Badenoch and Tom Tugendhat.

This compares to 6% who say they know a great deal about a Conservative MP called Stewart Lewis.

Stewart Lewis does not exist.

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1547242472664977408

indiana · Tennis legend

So the latest number of grass court wins, I mean Tory MP votes is :

1 Rishi Sunak 101
2. Penny Mordaunt 83
3. Liz Truss 64
4. Kemi Badenoch 49
5. Tom Tugendhat 32
6. Stella Braverman 27 - OUT

Our next PM will no doubt come from these first 3, though Badenoch has been a surprise and is now being pressurised by the right to withdraw and fling her support ( and they hope her supporters ) behind Truss . There seems to be still all to play for and no doubt dirty tricks to play to secure the 2 top places and being put to the Tory Party membership.

The odds have been fluctuating from Sunak odds on favorite to Mordaunt a stronger odds on favourite to Mordaunt now coming back closer to evens as she seems possibly vulnerable to losing a top 2 place to Sunak and a united right wing 'stop Sunak' candidate. Though polls of members currently suggest that the most likely person to beat Sunak in a members vote is Mordaunt.

Bet365 latest for the eventual winner from the membership vote :
Mordaunt 10/11
Truss 9/4
Sunak 10/3

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 15th of July 2022 12:04:04 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
So the latest number of grass court wins, I mean Tory MP votes is :

1 Rishi Sunak 101
2. Penny Mordaunt 83
3. Liz Truss 64
4. Kemi Badenoch 49
5. Tom Tugendhat 32
6. Stella Braverman 27 - OUT

Our next PM will no doubt come from these first 3, though Badenoch has been a surprise and is now being pressurised by the right to withdraw and fling her support ( and they hope her supporters ) behind Truss . There seems to be still all to play for and no doubt dirty tricks to play to secure the 2 top places and being put to the Tory Party membership.

The odds have been fluctuating from Sunak odds on favorite to Mordaunt a stronger odds on favourite to Mordaunt now coming back closer to evens.

Bet365 latest for the eventual winner from the membership vote :
Mordaunt 10/11
Truss 9/4
Sunak 10/3

If they had any sense, they'd pressurise Truss to withdraw and fling her support and supporters behind Kemi

(not that I really know anything about Kemi but Truss???? Honestly????)

indiana · Tennis legend

Hey, Jacob Rees- Mogg and and Nadine Dorries speak very well of Truss!

Shhh · Challenger level

Sadly I think Truss will win this Coup. Thats my 10p bet anyway. I do not think that the membership will go for Rishi and, I think the Tories will get Truss into the top two ahead of Mordaunt.

Kemi and Tom T. do seem the most original but both of course lack much top table experience. We'll see, as you say, plenty of twists and turns.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Shhh wrote:
Sadly I think Truss will win this Coup. Thats my 10p bet anyway. I do not think that the membership will go for Rishi and, I think the Tories will get Truss into the top two ahead of Mordaunt.

Kemi and Tom T. do seem the most original but both of course lack much top table experience. We'll see, as you say, plenty of twists and turns.

Actually, Shhh, I'd be rather happy in some ways if Truss wins - I might be wrong but I think she's a really difficult general election choice and that means no more conservative government smile

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

My son bet on Ben Wallace - ha, that didnt go well!

I expect Rishi v Truss in the run off, cant stand either but more I cant stand Truss. Im hoping the debates expose her but somehow dont think so.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Shhh wrote:
Sadly I think Truss will win this Coup. Thats my 10p bet anyway. I do not think that the membership will go for Rishi and, I think the Tories will get Truss into the top two ahead of Mordaunt.

Kemi and Tom T. do seem the most original but both of course lack much top table experience. We'll see, as you say, plenty of twists and turns.

Tend to agree with you. She seems to be the candidate with support from the ERG and as you correctly said, the membership won't like Sunak as they think he wouldn't be electable at the next election because of his family tax history.

indiana · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
My son bet on Ben Wallace - ha, that didnt go well!

I expect Rishi v Truss in the run off, cant stand either but more I cant stand Truss. Im hoping the debates expose her but somehow dont think so.

First TV debate and betting-wise Truss has already drifted quite a bit back out behind Sunak who has come back in a fair bit with Mordaunt just about remaining steady though she seems to have generally impressed only more than Truss but less than the other 3.

The Independent is saying that there is no doubt who lost that then. I missed it but it sounds worth a watch ( edit : Caught quite a bit now and yes, Truss was awful, Mordaunt underwhelming, Sunak and Badenoch confident, and Tugendhat impressing the general audience by being seemingly err pretty anti government and clearer on what he thought re Johnson's honesty ).

Mordaunt 1/1

Sunak 15/8

Truss 4/1

Badenoch 22/1

Tugendhat 33/1

-- Edited by indiana on Saturday 16th of July 2022 01:01:50 AM

Shhh · Challenger level

I read this on another message board discussing last nights TV debate....thought it worth sharing!

Tugenhaut out cameroned Cameron.
Sunak out blaired blair
Kemi spoke the most sense which will be her downfall
Mourdant red hat no knickers
Truss sucked what remaining joy there was in the room out, will probably win

-- Edited by Shhh on Saturday 16th of July 2022 06:37:51 AM

paulisi · Tennis legend

Please don't let Truss win
Wants to borrow more and more
Trade deals she negotiated not great for our farmers
Voted remain, but now a brexiteer....