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Will Andy qualify for the WTF 2014?


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Although I might be out of date (these from yesterday) because another site claims he's definitely playing in Valencia . . . 



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Friday 10th of October 2014 08:15:13 AM


 Yes - his own website does http://www.andymurray.com/news/andy-loses-to-ferrer-in-shanghai/ (at the bottom of the page)

Though that is from a news article - it isn't showing on his schedule page (yet?). . . The left hand knoweth not. . .?





-- Edited by Madeline on Friday 10th of October 2014 09:33:35 AM

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At least Gilles Simon has stopped Berdych getting any further ahead, beat him in 3 sets, 6-0 in the third!  Allez Gillou, well done and thank you very much!



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Madeline wrote:

At least Gilles Simon has stopped Berdych getting any further ahead, beat him in 3 sets, 6-0 in the third!  Allez Gillou, well done and thank you very much!


I would have been happy with that result regardless of the circumstances.



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I am surprised by this but Andy is taking a wild card in Vienna.

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Ferrer is now also playing in Vienna

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Weird one, but he would potentially only have to play max 4 matches so would be a Thursday start

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I'm not surprised- he's only played 2 matches this week so should be fresh- not much extra travelling as coming back to Europe for paris anyway.
He obviously wants to play London not just for a few extra bob, but for the extra ranking points, the chance to get back in the top 8 maybe in the top 4 for the AO.
I'm interested to see weather Andy plays the Mickey Mouse IPTL.


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He must be getting close to his WC limit as well now, that will be 3 WCs in 4 weeks I think?

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I'm pretty surprised about Vienna, Andy's certainly packing in the tournaments and I wasn't the only one wondering how his fall away against Ferrer might have been connected to his 11 matches in 15 days, including actually three matches in Shanghai. 

I guess, as said, he should have about a week off, but the last thing he needs is to be tailing off as the points improve 250 - 500 - 1000. Also, with his bottom two counters for the race now being 90 and 20 points, if he subsequently has a decent Valencia ( at least 90 points ), he then has to reach the final in Vienna ( 150 or 250 ) points to make any gain over what would then be his worst counter of 90. Hopefully he will, but I would have personally thought concentration on just Valencia and Paris would have been better.  I kind of supported his Shenzhen entry as removing any rust and getting back into the groove, but that is not not needed regards Vienna and clearly not what that WC is about.   

Good to see that Andy still isn't bothered about missing the WTF and that rest might be good anyway  wink  He was even having a moan about Cilic maybe qualifying while not in the top 8.

Anyway, now that he himself clearly shares our interest in his qualification, this week can count as a bit of an escape considering the draw and that he lost to Ferrer ( although of course would have been better if he had beaten Ferrer ).  



-- Edited by indiana on Friday 10th of October 2014 03:19:39 PM

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Well, I'm glad he's making the effort. Show of confidence (in that he believes it to be possible ... not sure he always did), gives a sense that his competitive instinct is around, and realistically the points on offer are too good to take lightly. If you don't make it, you're starting the next year behind. Also, I always got the sense that he quite liked Chris Kermode, and while the finals don't depend on Mr Murray to sell tickets and generate publicity (and money for the ATP - it's their tournament, isn't it?), his presence is probably helpful.

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The more I think about this the less certain I am about what I think.

On the plus side it shows that he really wants to make the WTF but on the downside I think it is bad way of going about. Winning Vienna and not having much left for Paris doesn't really help his cause. So all in all I see this is a flawed decision but made on the basis on good motivations.

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The plot thickens. Valencia seems to have been dropped - his official site is showing Vienna but not Valencia, and the Valencia site has no mention of him.

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RJA wrote:

The more I think about this the less certain I am about what I think.

On the plus side it shows that he really wants to make the WTF but on the downside I think it is bad way of going about. Winning Vienna and not having much left for Paris doesn't really help his cause. So all in all I see this is a flawed decision but made on the basis on good motivations.


 I'm not sure I agree. I thought the same about his three week Chinese block, but he won Schenzen - so an added 250 points, and as a consequence (at least in my head). Lost to Ferrer when he probably wouldn't have - so lost 90 points (I think Djokers would have beaten him anyway). Net gain 160 points.

He last played on Thursday, and has a R1 bye, so will have almost a week off. Paris will be tough anyway as he won't get that R1 bye. All in all worth the risk for my money.



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Madeline wrote:

The plot thickens. Valencia seems to have been dropped - his official site is showing Vienna but not Valencia, and the Valencia site has no mention of him.


 That scheduling actually does make sense to me, play this week after almost a full week rest, then have definitely a week off before playing Paris and (hopefully) WTF. Otherwise the WTF would end up being at the end of a longer block of back to back tournaments than I can ever remember Andy playing.

As for his commitment to getting to the WTF I'm just glad he has got back the motivation for something, I hope he does achieve it and can start 2015 with a clean slate once more.

 

 

 

 



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He is getting hurt by not being in the top 8 seedings for these big tournaments so I'm more than happy for him to be play Vienna, Valencia and Paris. Top 8 seeding for Aussie open got to be on his mind and the extra points at the WTF would do wonders. Also, first year I've been able to go so hoping to see him.

Not that they are particularly real only but bbc seem to believes he's doing Vienna Valencia and Paris

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/29579174



-- Edited by dougie on Saturday 11th of October 2014 05:28:53 PM

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