Week 24 - ATP World Tour 250 - London (Grass)

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

RE: Week 24 - ATP World Tour 250 - London (Grass)

indiana · Tennis legend

He won't play like that, simple as.

I do think there was a fair amount of mental and physical fatigue from the French Open and moving quickly to grass preparation.

A couple of days off and then get preparing for Wimbledon, and he'll be good to go.

Well done Radek anyway, played a very good match.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
He won't play like that, simple as.

I do think there was a fair amount of mental and physical fatigue from the French Open and moving quickly to grass preparation.

A couple of days off and then get preparing for Wimbledon, and he'll be good to go.

Well done Radek anyway, played a very good match.

Yes, can't help it, and I know the second set was a bit tame (!), but I really enjoyed it - Radek was like a breath of fresh air - a thinking man, skilful, with lots of tricks up his sleeve, and age 35 too - what's not to like . . .

imoen · Admin: Moderator+Tennis Legend

indiana wrote:
He won't play like that, simple as.

I do think there was a fair amount of mental and physical fatigue from the French Open and moving quickly to grass preparation.

A couple of days off and then get preparing for Wimbledon, and he'll be good to go.

Well done Radek anyway, played a very good match.

I agree, especially when you add in the inevitable disruption of the arrival of a new coach. I wasn't expecting Andy to win here again and I don't think he really cared one way or the other either - which is probably why he couldn't close out that first set and didn't turn it around afterwards.

Also, all credit to Stepanek who played a tight, attacking game and took the opportunities that presented themselves to him - I've seen many a player fail to do that especially in situations like 2-6 in that first tiebreak.

Jan · Hall of fame

Glad that "they" have decided that there will be an extra week between clay and grass

indiana · Tennis legend

Or rather [pedant]an extra week between the French Open and Wimbledon[/pedant]

RJA · Hall of fame

indiana wrote:
Or rather [pedant]an extra week between the French Open and Wimbledon[/pedant]

Indeed, which means an extra week of grass court tennis

RJA · Hall of fame

Coup Droit wrote:
indiana wrote:
He won't play like that, simple as.

I do think there was a fair amount of mental and physical fatigue from the French Open and moving quickly to grass preparation.

A couple of days off and then get preparing for Wimbledon, and he'll be good to go.

Well done Radek anyway, played a very good match.

Yes, can't help it, and I know the second set was a bit tame (!), but I really enjoyed it - Radek was like a breath of fresh air - a thinking man, skilful, with lots of tricks up his sleeve, and age 35 too - what's not to like . . .

Yes, I do like watching Spepanek play on grass.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Andy won this tournament in 2009,2011, and 2013. It just wasn't his year to win it! Next year, with the week extra after the French, maybe we can hope. But when all is said and done, this tournament is not really important to anybody but the British - it is only a 250, the lowest level of ATP tournaments. So next year it will be a 500 and more worth winning!

I feel he is really looking over-tired (I know how that feels, I'm suffering from exhaustion myself after a couple of months of poor sleep)which affects your mental state as well as the physical.

Jan · Hall of fame

Ah I hadn't really looked in detail about what is going to happen next year, oops!
So there will be a week between the French and Queens, but there will be another grass tournament during that week???

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes, over the last 2 or 3 years he more than ever gets up for Slams ( well, prepares for them comparatively much more ) as against other tournaments.

Even his Masters record has markedly deteriorated, and he loses to all sorts of guys, but in Slams...

Andy hasn't failed to reach at least the QF of every Slam he has contested ( missed the 2013 French Open ) since the 2010 US Open, when he lost in the L32 to Wawrinka.

That's 13 Slams : 2 titles, 3 RUs, 5 losing SF and 3 losing QF.

His 11 defeats in that time have been to Nadal 4 times, Djokovic 3 times, Federer twice, Ferrer once ( 2012 French Open QF ) and Wawrinka once ( 2013 US Open QF, first Slam after his Wimbledon triumph ).

I like looking at that, because it gives me positivity for Wimbledon :)

Was today ideal ? Certainly not. Any great worry ? No.

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

I'm not surprised at all - apart from the new girlfriend factor

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He had a good run at the French (whereas he missed it last year). It's pretty normal to have a bad run straight after doing well at the French - Nadal got knocked out first round! Djokers isn't playing and no clue about Gulbis. I don't think it has a bearing at all on how Wimby will go. good luck to him with the added time for his prep.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Jan wrote:
Ah I hadn't really looked in detail about what is going to happen next year, oops!
So there will be a week between the French and Queens, but there will be another grass tournament during that week???

Yes, a couple of 250s I think, then Queens and Halle 500s, then 2 more 250s. (Subject to correction, my memory is AWOL at the moment )

-- Edited by Madeline on Thursday 12th of June 2014 08:01:35 PM

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Helen40 wrote:
I'm not surprised at all - apart from the new girlfriend factor .

He had a good run at the French (whereas he missed it last year). It's pretty normal to have a bad run straight after doing well at the French - Nadal got knocked out first round! Djokers isn't playing and no clue about Gulbis. I don't think it has a bearing at all on how Wimby will go. good luck to him with the added time for his prep.

He lost early too.

Jan · Hall of fame

Madeline wrote:
Jan wrote:
Ah I hadn't really looked in detail about what is going to happen next year, oops!
So there will be a week between the French and Queens, but there will be another grass tournament during that week???
Yes, a couple of 250s I think, then Queens and Halle 500s, then 2 more 250s. (Subject to correction, my memory is AWOL at the moment )

-- Edited by Madeline on Thursday 12th of June 2014 08:01:35 PM

thanks!