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RE: Andy mutually ends partnership with Ivan


jenks wrote:

Today's comments and articles seem to put alot of the speculation in here yesterday to bed. I feel that it is starting to look like it is as simple as Ivan, having achieved with Andy what they set out to achieve, didn't want to continue in the same role.

I read an article 9 months or so ago, just before or after Wimbledon that in hindsight appears to speak volumes about this split. One of the few direct quotes from Ivan in that article really stood out. It was basically, in its simplest terms, something along the lines of 'im enjoying playing tennis again' in reference to hitting etc with Andy. When this news broke, having seen Ivan was playing the masters more and more, that quote was the first thing I thought of. Ive spent shedloads of time today trying to find the article. Haven't come across it yet though.



-- Edited by jenks on Friday 21st of March 2014 01:17:40 AM


 I remember that quote too - I think it was in a BBC profile they did on Andy just after Wimbledon, where they looked at the event from everyone's viewpoint (Judy. Leon, Dad etc).  The other possibility is a Time's article which followed the same sort of format and included a lot reaction from Alex Ferguson as well.



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So ironically, coaching Andy has made him want to play again, so he hasn't got time to coach Andy.

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That seems to be it in a nutshell.

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Yes, Ivan always was a bit part time, and of course was famous for fitting in rounds of golf everywhere.

But that seemed really no problem for Andy. As long as Ivan was basically "around" he had the rest of his team to continue working with. As I saw remarked, he doesn't really want an "in your face" coach.

But there's part time and part time, and Ivan's wishes and plans as he himsrlf said were just meaning his time commitment was not enough. Noone's fault. Yes Ivan may have changed the goalposts, but with what he did for Andy it is very difficult to really think negatively of the man, he has his life.

I know I said initially that I wasn't as concerned as many folk, and I could understand Ivan being the man for a partucular time and it was understandable to move on, I think it looks more and more that this is not what Andy wanted. He seemed to really like and value Ivan, it was a great match.

Hopefully he can find a coach that really suits him and move on again,.but we know from Andy's padt, and indeed with many players, that that won't necessarily be too easy.

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Flabbergasted 



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Jaffa wrote:

Story here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/26646809

 

I, for one am incredibly shocked. Did an amazing job.


 Might have been financial cut backs 



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Jaffa wrote:

Story here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/26646809

 

I, for one am incredibly shocked. Did an amazing job.


 Might have been financial cut backs 


I think Ivan's golf handicap might have more to do with it.

 



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Could drop out of the top 10 Huge mistake parting with Lendel 



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Could drop out of the top 10 Huge mistake parting with Lendel 


To be fair, Gary, it was Lendl who chose not to continue. Given a choice, Andy would have carried on with the partnership.  But we will know tomorrow who the new coach is going to be.

Is the fact that he is in Naples with Leon Smith an indicator or a red herring ?



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Could drop out of the top 10 Huge mistake parting with Lendel 


To be fair, Gary, it was Lendl who chose not to continue. Given a choice, Andy would have carried on with the partnership.  But we will know tomorrow who the new coach is going to be.

Is the fact that he is in Naples with Leon Smith an indicator or a red herring ?


 Is the announcement tomorrow not an April fools ?



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philwrig wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
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Could drop out of the top 10 Huge mistake parting with Lendel 


To be fair, Gary, it was Lendl who chose not to continue. Given a choice, Andy would have carried on with the partnership.  But we will know tomorrow who the new coach is going to be.

Is the fact that he is in Naples with Leon Smith an indicator or a red herring ?


 Is the announcement tomorrow not an April fools ?


Probably. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if I had been taken in by that one. As you will have possibly noticed already, my own efforts at April Fool's jokes don't really Fool anyone.



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philwrig wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
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Could drop out of the top 10 Huge mistake parting with Lendel 


To be fair, Gary, it was Lendl who chose not to continue. Given a choice, Andy would have carried on with the partnership.  But we will know tomorrow who the new coach is going to be.

Is the fact that he is in Naples with Leon Smith an indicator or a red herring ?


 Is the announcement tomorrow not an April fools ?


I think it is. He set it up last week by asking people on Twitter who would make a good coach (I smelt a rat then - it was such an un-Andy thing to do) and the clever thing about his tweet today was that he must have known he couldn't get away with another fake coach announcement as blatant as the Ross one, yet knew that at least some of the media would report an imminent annoucement as fact - though the BBC and Sky really should have known better.

Either that or he's double-bluffing and actually will announce his new coach tomorrow, but I'll be shocked if that proves to be the case!



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Just had a look at the Beeb website and read some of the reports. PMSL. It was a good laugh at bedtime. Good old Andy! What mugs the press are to fall for the same April fool again.

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www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-2607911/TIM-HENMAN-EXCLUSIVE-Andy-Murray-class-act-no-matter-coaching-him.html

Tim Henman's views (as per the Daily Mail!)

Wtih some strange photos of Andy looking remarkably like Rafa !

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Did anyone else see Andy's comments about maybe attending Sports Personality of the Year this year (article: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/sports-personality/27473046) because he might be going to Australia earlier...

...maybe I'm reading too much into it but that would suggest to me he is thinking about hiring a coach based down under - anyone know who's down there?!

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