Weeks 10-11 - ATP Masters 1000 - Indian Wells CA, USA (AM) - Hard

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RE: Weeks 10-11 - ATP Masters 1000 - Indian Wells CA, USA (AM) - Hard

BeefyDeedz · Pro player

There's winning ugly, and there's that.

A win is a win, but no matter who Andy's opponent is in the next round, it has to be much better. It's as simple as that, really.

Miriambee · Futures level

I went out at a set and 1-2 down, came back fully expecting Andy to have lost the whole thing, so now pleasantly surprised that he's through, - without the agony of watching/listening to a painful match. Heard a little of the beginning on Five live extra.

indiana · Tennis legend

The positives :

Andy did win.

He has at least one more match to work on err apparently rather a lot.

He's a step closer to being ranked at least WR 5 after IW, which with Ferrer's possible non participation in Miami could see him as a top 4 seed there.

And he has recovered from shockers quite quickly in the past.

BeefyDeedz · Pro player

What's the situation with WR 5 at the minute? I'm guessing that if Andy gets to the QFs and Roger doesn't get to the Final, then he's going to be WR 5? Although, Andy is defending maximum points in Miami, which is always worrying.

indiana · Tennis legend

Andy effectively started Indian Wells 260 points ahead of Roger "in running".

So yes, if Andy goes out at the QF stage ( 180 ) points and Roger at the SF stage ( 360 points ), Andy will be ahead of Roger by 80 points.

However, if say Andy was to go out in his next match at the L16 stage ( 90 points ), a SF for Roger would leave Andy 10 points behind.

A final ( OK, I wouldn't bet on it ! ) would take Andy above Ferrer at WR 4.

( not sure how relevant this is for Miami, i.e. as to whether or not Ferrer will be there )

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Andy's going to have to get his @rse in gear, if he's to progress any further in California. Can't see the Canuck being as forgiving as Vesely:

R4: (10) Milos Raonic (CAN) WR 11 vs (5) Andy Murray WR 6

steven · Tennis legend

L16: (5) Andy Murray WR 6 v (10) Milos Raonic (CAN) WR 11 (CH 10 in Aug)

H2H 1-2 (+ a walkover win each) all in 2012 - Andy's win was in straight sets at the US Open that year

indiana · Tennis legend

A match to really focus the mind. I am expecting a much better display from Andy.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Just seen that Nadal has gone out to Dolgopolov. If Andy can get through against Raonic (and from what I've read here that's a big "if") he will have an easier QF than expected.

savva0122 · Intermediate Club Player

Neil Harman's report in the Times is enlightening.
Has a 1-2 record against Raonic, so really needs to pull his socks up to go any further.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

savva0122 wrote:
Neil Harman's report in the Times is enlightening.
Has a 1-2 record against Raonic, so really needs to pull his socks up to go any further.

Don't remember the details of all of those matches, but one of the defeats was Barcelona on the clay in 2012. Remember it well because it was the QF and I had tickets for the SF and Final cry

Miriambee · Futures level

Now that Nadal's out I hope Murray at least gets to the semi-final. He never seems to have done well here before, apart from losing to Nadal as finalist in a very windy match, where he just didn't cope with the weather.

savva0122 · Intermediate Club Player

Hope he can get past raonic. To be fair to Andy he tends to up his game against tougher opposition. Dolgopolov won't be a pushover though. Reached the final and semi of last 2 500s

BeefyDeedz · Pro player

Neither Dolgopolov nor Fognini will be easy. Fognini has been playing some cracking tennis at some points, so he's my favourite for the QF.