Week 7 - ATP 500 - Rotterdam (Hard)

RJA · Hall of fame

RE: Week 7 - ATP 500 - Rotterdam (Hard)

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Oh dear, oh dear. One set all. Well, Andy did say he needed match practice. He's sure getting it - but if he doesn't pull his socks up - and stop doing stupid drop-shots - he'll find this is his last match this week.

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

Please has anyone got a link to a stream.

Jan · Hall of fame

live.drakulastream.eu/static/popups/2008161125358030.html

steven · Tennis legend

Muzz - never finish a match in 90 minutes when you can make it last a hour longer!

To be fair, Thiem has played some good stuff in the bits of the match I've seen.

steven · Tennis legend

L16: (2/WC) Andy Murray WR 6 beat (Q) Dominic Thiem AUT WR 113 (= CH) by 6-4 3-6 6-3

QF: (2/WC) Andy Murray WR 6 v Marin Cilic (CRO) WR 37 (CH 9 in 2010)

H2H in seniors: 9-1

Cilic has won his last 7 matches in straight sets but Andy has won their last 6 encounters!

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

So Andy got there in the end, though not without a struggle (the match lasted two hours & 22 minutes), taking the decider by 6-3, but I'll bet the youngster's chuffed to bits at taking a set off "the Wimbledon champion" & pushing him so close! wink

Priesty · Challenger level

Heard a lot about the Thiemster but never seen him play until tonight. Well impressed.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

I'm exhausted after that. I hope Andy can recover by tomorrow - he did seem to be struggling physically as well as with his form. Cilic is playing very well at the moment - Goran Ivanisevic seems to have improved him a great deal.

philwrig · Hall of fame

Of course Thiem is one of those youngsters who was in the same junior group as the likes of Oli/Liam/George. Always a little frustrating that a player with a similar amount of ability as our 3 in juniors makes the senior translation look alot easier. This is certainly not a dig against our players just an observation.

Drew · Feb 13, 2014

Madeline wrote:
I'm exhausted after that. I hope Andy can recover by tomorrow - he did seem to be struggling physically as well as with his form. Cilic is playing very well at the moment - Goran Ivanisevic seems to have improved him a great deal.

Still got your fave pillow to hide your face in?? lol

indiana · Tennis legend

Hmm, maybe fair to a limited extent, but for me a lot is down to the individuals. For instance, I thought there were far too many "oh wow is me !" comparisons ( who's looking at you, korriban ? :) ) being made last year, particularly in respect of Oli, of different similar age players.

It is not being a little wise after the event to mention Oli's progress recently, because last year quite a number of us were saying that different players mature at different rates and that Oli was possibly still a very good prospect if just taking time to mature in a number of areas.

Also we will be well aware of players like Thiem from other countries, who have made a very good junior to senior transition and probably don't pick up on many that haven't. No doubt the Austrian Tennis Discussion Forum could find some examples.

And here Kyle has made a very good transition as against say Oli initially ( and probably some players from other countries ). But I wouldn't put money on which of these two will ultimately go further.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Drew wrote:
Madeline wrote:
I'm exhausted after that. I hope Andy can recover by tomorrow - he did seem to be struggling physically as well as with his form. Cilic is playing very well at the moment - Goran Ivanisevic seems to have improved him a great deal.
Still got your fave pillow to hide your face in?? lol

Cushion, Drew, cushion. I think I'm on #53 now, the others are all in tatters.

SMC1809 · All-time great

indiana wrote:
Hmm, maybe fair to a limited extent, but for me a lot is down to the individuals. For instance, I thought there were far too many "oh wow is me !" comparisons ( who's looking at you, korriban ? :) ) being made last year, particularly in respect of Oli, of different similar age players.

It is not being a little wise after the event to mention Oli's progress recently, because last year quite a number of us were saying that different players mature at different rates and that Oli was possibly still a very good prospect if just taking time to mature in a number of areas.

Also we will be well aware of players like Thiem from other countries, who have made a very good junior to senior transition and probably don't pick up on many that haven't. No doubt the Austrian Tennis Discussion Forum could find some examples.

And here Kyle has made a very good transition as against say Oli initially ( and probably some players from other countries ). But I wouldn't put money on which of these two will ultimately go further.

I know Oli can be a bit brash at times, but surely it's "woe is me"?

philwrig · Hall of fame

indiana wrote:
Hmm, maybe fair to a limited extent, but for me a lot is down to the individuals. For instance, I thought there were far too many "oh wow is me !" comparisons ( who's looking at you, korriban ? :) ) being made last year, particularly in respect of Oli, of different similar age players.

It is not being a little wise after the event to mention Oli's progress recently, because last year quite a number of us were saying that different players mature at different rates and that Oli was possibly still a very good prospect if just taking time to mature in a number of areas.

Also we will be well aware of players like Thiem from other countries, who have made a very good junior to senior transition and probably don't pick up on many that haven't. No doubt the Austrian Tennis Discussion Forum could find some examples.

And here Kyle has made a very good transition as against say Oli initially ( and probably some players from other countries ). But I wouldn't put money on which of these two will ultimately go further.

Oli is still a huge prospect, he was when he was is in the duldrums last year, and is still now. Anyone who saw his demolition of the 10k draw at Newcastle nearly 2 years ago( at only 18), would be mad to say anything else. I was just making the observation that this Thiem guy was making eye catching progress, whereas our juniors other than Andy tend to take a little longer. I think in 5 years time, we'll have maybe as many as 4 top 100 players and much more strength in depth.