Week 26/27 - Wimbledon women's main draw - grass

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RE: Week 26/27 - Wimbledon women's main draw - grass

philwrig · Hall of fame

tony_orient wrote:
steven wrote:
The odds on the Brits seem to be going out a bit. Re-doing the calculation today, I get:

Bally 54%
Hev 42%
Laura 31%
Anne 24%
Sam 20%
JoKo 12%
Tara 11%

Total expected: 1.94 (from 2.08 yesterday)
So that's 0.14 of a match lost before Wimbledon has even started
Laura's odds were ridiculous when first released, now getting towards realistic for beating a top 10 seed but I still think the odds for Hev and Laura don't reflect the difference in quality between Kirilenko and Keys

-- Edited by tony_orient on Sunday 23rd of June 2013 04:12:56 PM

Kiri has injury question marks so for once I like Laura's odds, and Hev's look quite appealing as well as Hev was super impressive against Lepchenko and Keys lost in qualies at Eastbourne. Wouldn't take on Bally at odds on, no value there IMO.

steven · Tennis legend

She retired in from a match in Montréal in August and eventually had surgery on her wrist after the US Open. She started to play again in February but didn't win back to back matches until May, when she qualifying and reached the semis in Strasbourg on clay, beating 3 players in the 70-100 range on the way. She then lost to Flipkens in R1 at RG and 3 & 2 to Bartoli in R1 in Eastbourne - not exactly irrefutable evidence that she can't play well on grass any more.

Not too dissimilar to Bally's last 12 months then, but she did have a 3-0 H2H against Bally, reached R3 at the Olympics here last year (beat Cirstea & Pironkova, lost to Kvitova), has reached R4 at Wimbledon twice and R3 for three of the last 4 years.

Looking at all that, not entirely clear why Bally was the (slight) favourite.

-- Edited by steven on Monday 24th of June 2013 12:28:24 PM

Spectator · All-time great

Sorry for Ms Baltacha, and hope she doesn't take it too much to heart. And that the British press are decent. (I saw the Mail article others referred to earlier and was absolutely appalled. Though, regrettably, not shocked) Puig's win was quite something, no?

-- Edited by Spectator on Monday 24th of June 2013 12:06:37 PM

PockyTastic · Futures level

Sam has hit a couple of good shots, got some free points from Giorgi errors, but has been made to do a lot of running.

She has just held with an ace. Some deeper shots helping her there - several of her earlier shots were barely going beyond the service line.

Sam 1-3*

-- Edited by PockyTastic on Monday 24th of June 2013 01:04:57 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Yep. It may be Sam's natural style but if the players don't look as though they're making the effort or care, then it's difficult for the crowd to make the effort or care.
And I;m not talking about running for the ball but all the little bounces that you have to force yourself to do at the moment the ball hits the opponents racket - Sam barely one, Giorgi on every ball.

Edit: So Sam suddenly finally looks a bit more motivated and determined, when serving to stay in the match. Shame it's a bit late. But who knows - allez Sam !

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Monday 24th of June 2013 02:07:05 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

PaulM, yes, I thought her return was dreadful. She doesn't set herself properly (at all) so she's 'coming up' when she should be 'going down'.

I thought she had good qualities and was surprised that she has such an obvious weakness. She could definitely be top 200 and, indeed, should most certainly be - she's nearly there already.

NB Joko is playing extremely well

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Monday 24th of June 2013 02:40:44 PM

korriban · Challenger level

Classic BBC.

The website has a run down of the GB players to look out for at Wimbledon. First of all it's only the MD singles players (3 men, 7 women); no doubles players mentioned. I don't have a problem with this, but I know many of you do.

There are supposed to be photos, Wimbledon records and profiles of all 10 players.

However on the women's side they have been unable to find a phot of JoKo, and have inserted a photo of another player for Tara (I have no idea who it is; some of you may be eagle eyed enough to know the name, but I suspect its not a Brit)

Either do things right, BBC, or don;t bother at all!

SMC1809 · All-time great

That's also Tomic rather than Ward

SMC1809 · All-time great

Joko is in the main photo at the top, so it seems odd they didn't just crop that one.

korriban · Challenger level

SMC1809 wrote:
That's also Tomic rather than Ward

Blimey, you're right!!! Extraordinary!!!

korriban · Challenger level

Just emailed the BBC website sports pages to tell them about it. Muppets!

SMC1809 · All-time great

I think the Tara pic of one of the Pliskova girls.

korriban · Challenger level

All fixed by the BBC. Presume someone else had already given feedback, becuase otherwise, that's a 10 minute turnaround

blob · All-time great

The two pictures are wrong, Ward (Tomic) & Moore (looks like Kristyna Pliskova). They're just plain wrong on this one - despite the rest of the article seeming sound.

Regarding JoKo, the top group image is a Getty Image and when licensing from them, you're only allowed to use the original picture 'as is' and save re-sizing (not the same as cropping), you're not allowed to alter the images in any way.

I'd like to add that 'Five Chinese Crackers' a long running blog that examines media accuracy shows that the BBC consistently is significantly more accurate than other media sources, print and televisual. Not an impression you'd get from reading this forum.