Boys & Girls: Nazmi Bari Cup, Turkey - Grade 4 (Week 20)

DavidC · Tennis legend

Boys & Girls: Nazmi Bari Cup, Turkey - Grade 4 (Week 20)

Mervatron · Masters Series Champion

Heres hoping Mirabelle can make it 2 from 2

DavidC · Tennis legend

Boys R1 (L64)

Daniel Bennett (GBR) d. Alexandr Kim (KAZ) 6-1 6-1

R2

Oleksandr Gulyevskyy (UKR) v Daniel Bennett (GBR)

DavidC · Tennis legend

Comfortable openers for Mirabelle and Jasmine

Girls R1 (L64)

Tina Bokhua (RUS) d. Alice McGinty (GBR) 6-1 6-1
(9) Mirabelle Njoze (GBR) d. Daria Glushich (RUS) 6-1 6-2
(3) Jasmine Amber Asghar (GBR) d. (WC) Asil Pekdemir (TUR)

R2

(9) Mirabelle Njoze (GBR) v Ylona-Georgiana Ghioroaie (ROU)
Carlotta Gianetta (ITA) v (3) Jasmine Amber Asghar (GBR)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

The two girls going well:

(9) Mirabelle Njoze (GBR) def. Ylona-Georgiana Ghioroaie (ROU) 6-1, 6-1

(3) Jasmine Amber Asghar (GBR) def. Carlotta Gianetta (ITA) 7-6, 6-0

R3

(9) Mirabelle Njoze (GBR) v (6) Rosie Cheng (NZL)

(3) Jasmine Amber Asghar (GBR) v (14) Gyulnara Nazarova (UKR)

In the doubles, Alice McGinty won her first round match, partnering Noa Nederpelt from the Netherlands. (Jasmine has a bye and Mirabelle's not playing).

For the boys:

Oleksandr Gulyevskyy (UKR) def. Daniel Bennett (GBR) 6-2, 6-2

and also unfortunately lost out in a third set 'super tie-break' in the doubles.

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Wednesday 15th of May 2013 07:24:36 PM

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Wednesday 15th of May 2013 07:26:33 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

R3

(9) Mirabelle Njoze (GBR) def. (6) Rosie Cheng (NZL) 6-3, 6-1

(3) Jasmine Amber Asghar (GBR) lost to (14) Gyulnara Nazarova (UKR) 6-4, 6-1

QF

Mirabelle plays Talya Zandberg (16), the israeli girl she beat 1 and 3 last week.

In the doubles, Jasmine won her match, playing with Rosie Cheng, the girl Mirabelle beat in the singles.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Mirabelle made short shrift of her opponent and now plays the top seed in the semis :

(9) Mirabelle Njoze (GBR) def. Talya Zandberg (16) 6-0, 6-1

SF
Mirabelle v. (1) Viktoria Kuzmova (SVK)

Jasmine's duo also won their QF in a match decider tie-break.

DavidC · Tennis legend

Kuzmova is a big step-up from anyone else she has played in Turkey. She is one of Maia and Gabi's rivals (beat Maia earlier this year and 1-1 with Gabi last summer) - part of the team which won the World Juniors, beating Tornado Black amongst others.

Nevertheless Mirabelle acquitted herself well. Jasmine's duo lost their doubles semi in a match tie-break

SF

(1) Viktoria Kuzmova (SVK) d. (9) Mirabelle Njoze (GBR) 7-6(4) 6-4

TennisKnowHow · Improver

DavidC wrote:
Kuzmova is a big step-up from anyone else she has played in Turkey. She is one of Maia and Gabi's rivals (beat Maia earlier this year and 1-1 with Gabi last summer) - part of the team which won the World Juniors, beating Tornado Black amongst others.

Nevertheless Mirabelle acquitted herself well. Jasmine's duo lost their doubles semi in a match tie-break

SF

(1) Viktoria Kuzmova (SVK) d. (9) Mirabelle Njoze (GBR) 7-6(4) 6-4

Take it easy David, it looks like you couldn't just wait to stick one up against our GB girls in Turkey. "Kuzmova is a big step-up from anyone else she has played in Turkey". Really!!!! Give me a break. And your evidence of such a sweeping statement is ....... that she is rivals of Maia & Gabi +? Come on now!!! I presume you were in Turkey to see the other players in action? Or you have seen all the other players in action recently? Or maybe you have a grudge against the other players? She should have had 0 & 0 matches against those she has played then, which is far from being the case.

If beating someone 7-6(4) 6-4 is a "BIG STEP UP" from everyone else, I shudder what you would think about beating someone 0 & 0. The person should probably not have been accepted in the draw.

Sticking with our GB girls - take for example Jasmine - played last week singles and doubles, then straight into this week singles and doubles going very far in both. Then you have Mirabelle (not familiar to us at all - not to me anyway). 5 straight sets win matches last week plus doubles participation, then Sunday rest (probably) followed by another 5 matches (4 straight sets win). Wisely skipping doubles. Kuzmova came in with a week's break and no doubles participation so fresher? (Who knows).

Have been curious about our GB girl Mirabelle - I can see that a couple of weeks ago in Beaulieu Grade 1 she had very close match with ITF ranked 17 player, I think 7-6(5), 7-5. Now, are you seriously telling me Kuzmova is a "BIG STEP UP" from Mirabelle and Jasmine for that matter? Have you seen them in action? And I presume for you, Maia & Gabi are the standards against which other GB players are judged. No wonder we can't make headway in tennis.

**** This is junior tennis. Let the children develop. Best wishes to all our juniors and congrats to Mirabelle and Jasmine for their fantastic efforts in their two weeks stay in turkey. *****

insomniacfolder · Challenger level

For various reasons I haven't logged in here for a long time, but I really cannot let that last comment stand.

DavidC has posted almost 10,000 times on this forum, over 7 years of service. Almost all of those posts have been on the junior game.

His tireless devotion to keeping everyone informed about the whereabouts and successes of our junior representatives goes light years beyond duty, service or kindness, and he is always even handed and mediated in his comments.

The breadth and depth of knowledge he has displayed over the years is an absolute marvel, and for one - and I'm very very sure, not the only one - I am very thankful to him for all the information he selflessly provides.

I respect his opinion and information about the junior game in Britain, and indeed globally,more than anyone else's I can think of, and find his balanced and calm assessment of things to be a model for how one should rightfully approach commentary on forums such as this. Report the facts.

If he says that a player or players were a step up in class, then I am very sure that is because, yes he has indeed seen them or report of them, not just recently, but probably repeatedly throughout their young careers.

TennisKnowHow, I humbly suggest that before you start making aggressive and accusatory remarks questioning his knowledge and opinion, you would do very well to acknowledge the length of tenure and review the massive amount of detail and information DavidC has displayed over the years on this forum. Read through some past posts and see the non judgemental and sanguine approach he always has maintained, lest you make yourself look very foolish, although I fear it may already be too late for that.

Thank you DavidC for everything. I hope you are in no way dissuaded from continuing to share your knowledge by such an ill considered attack. I am most assuredly grateful to you.

Sincerely,
insomniacfolder

Spectator · All-time great

TennisKnowHow, I think you are taking offense where none was meant. DavidC simply meant that Kuzmova appears to be a better player than Ms Njoze's prior opponents, a comment that appears justified both by Ms Kuzmova's ranking and by the result of the match.

His comment in no way reflected poorly on Ms Njoze, whom he commended, or on the other GB young women who are in the tournament.

steven · Tennis legend

insomniacfolder wrote:
For various reasons I haven't logged in here for a long time, but I really cannot let that last comment stand.

DavidC has posted almost 10,000 times on this forum, over 7 years of service. Almost all of those posts have been on the junior game.

His tireless devotion to keeping everyone informed about the whereabouts and successes of our junior representatives goes light years beyond duty, service or kindness, and he is always even handed and mediated in his comments.

The breadth and depth of knowledge he has displayed over the years is an absolute marvel, and for one - and I'm very very sure, not the only one - I am very thankful to him for all the information he selflessly provides.

I respect his opinion and information about the junior game in Britain, and indeed globally,more than anyone else's I can think of, and find his balanced and calm assessment of things to be a model for how one should rightfully approach commentary on forums such as this. Report the facts.

If he says that a player or players were a step up in class, then I am very sure that is because, yes he has indeed seen them or report of them, not just recently, but probably repeatedly throughout their young careers.

TennisKnowHow, I humbly suggest that before you start making aggressive and accusatory remarks questioning his knowledge and opinion, you would do very well to acknowledge the length of tenure and review the massive amount of detail and information DavidC has displayed over the years on this forum. Read through some past posts and see the non judgemental and sanguine approach he always has maintained, lest you make yourself look very foolish, although I fear it may already be too late for that.

Thank you DavidC for everything. I hope you are in no way dissuaded from continuing to share your knowledge by such an ill considered attack. I am most assuredly grateful to you.

Sincerely,
insomniacfolder

Well said, IF, I couldn't have put it better myself.

DF · Tennis legend

May I also agree wholeheartedly with what insomniacfolder said in such a calm way. Thank you

Shhh · Challenger level

I echo the replies above.

TennisKnowHow...........you obviously have a lot of knowledge and I am sure we all (including David) would love to learn from you. If you debated the points with David, I am sure he would welcome it yet you have rushed into judging someone having posted here just 3 times previously yet see fit to accuse THEM of making "sweeping statements".

TennisKnowHow · Improver

Spectator wrote:
TennisKnowHow, I think you are taking offense where none was meant. DavidC simply meant that Kuzmova appears to be a better player than Ms Njoze's prior opponents, a comment that appears justified both by Ms Kuzmova's ranking and by the result of the match.

His comment in no way reflected poorly on Ms Njoze, whom he commended, or on the other GB young women who are in the tournament.

Thanks Spectator for your calm mediation and I understand your point. Insomniacfolder, I fully understand your position as well, it is nothing personal. I am fully aware of DavidC's input in this forum, which is tireless and very informative.

I might be new to this forum but I have detailed knowledge of Junior and Senior tennis as well.

My point of view is that - just because Kuzmova won doesn't imply she is a "BIG STEP UP" from Mirabelle's previous opponents in Turkey. There is no evidence of that as far as I can tell. I don't go by ranking. All I can deduce is that Kuzmova must have played very well on the day to have won given Mirabelle's recent performances. I have never seen her or Mirabelle play. So if I go by ranking alone (which is very deceptive) and not knowing the player, I would have to say Mirabelle has been performing way above her level.