Andy's schedule for 2013

savva0122 · Intermediate Club Player

RE: Andy's schedule for 2013

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

savva0122 wrote:

On a completely different note, anyone seen the stamps:

blog.norphil.co.uk/2013/07/royal-mail-serves-ace-with-stamp.html

Thanks for that, savva. Had no idea about the stamps. Super news! Reckon I'll be investing in both the plain mini-sheet & the FDC, given the special nature of Andy's first Wimbledon crown. wink

On the basis of the principle set out in the blog, I reckon that Chris Froome & the England cricket team will be the next to be so honoured, assuming that the former delivers Team GB's second successive Tour de France victory this weekend & the latter retains the Ashes at the end of the current series. Possibly even Lee Westwood, if he wins the Open ( ). And why not? Great to see our sportsmen (so far, no women, unless you count the rowers at Lucerne last week, but that's clearly not a high enough profile event cry ) picking up the baton after the Olympics, Wiggo in the Tour de France & Andy's USO win last summer! biggrin

seagull · Hall of fame

Bangkok Entry List

Murray, Andy GBR 2
Berdych, Tomas CZE 6
Raonic, Milos CAN 10
Gasquet, Richard FRA 11
Simon, Gilles FRA 17
Robredo, Tommy ESP 23
Youzhny, Mikhail RUS 25
Lopez, Feliciano ESP 27
Dodig, Ivan CRO 35
Nieminen, Jarkko FIN 39
Tomic, Bernard AUS 42
Rosol, Lukas CZE 43
Matosevic, Marinko AUS 56
Gimeno-Traver, Daniel ESP 58
Lu, Yen-Hsun TPE 60
Haase, Robin NED 62
Istomin, Denis UZB 63
Bautista Agut, Roberto ESP 66
Kubot, Lukasz POL 67

Alternates

1. Mannarino, Adrian FRA 68
2. Sijsling, Igor NED 69
3. Lorenzi, Paolo ITA 72
4. Roger-Vasselin, Edouard FRA 73
5. Sela, Dudi ISR 76
6. Mayer, Leonardo ARG 77
7. Vesely, Jiri CZE 78
8. Donskoy, Evgeny RUS 82
9. Karlovic, Ivo CRO 83
10. Lacko, Lukas SVK 84

RJA · Hall of fame

No real surprise but Andy confirmed for Tokyo.

RJA · Hall of fame

Josh wrote:
indiana wrote:
So effectively will have no year end points for Bangkok. Already has maximum 250 counts from what will be his two allowable ATP 250 counters ( Brisbane and Queens ).
I've never quite managed to get my head around the ranking changes regarding the 'mandatory' 250s and 500s, but Ferrer has 3 250s counting towards his ranking (Buenos Aires, Auckland and Oeiras) so why couldn't Andy count Bangkok as his 3rd 250?

They changed the rules regarding what tournaments you can count. You now count all mandatory events that you can get into, so in Andy's case the 4 slams and the 8 mandatory masters series plus your best 6 other events regardless of whether they are 500s, 250s or even challengers. However as a commitment player (top 30) Andy is obliged to play 4 ATP 500s (Monte Carlo counts as a 500 for this purpose) and as he will only play 2 he will have two mandatory zeros that must form part of his 6 "other events".

So if Andy does well in Bangkok and Tokyo (90 points or more at each) they will both count along with Brisbane and Queens plus two mandatory zeros). Monte Carlo would then drop to "non countable".

EDIT: Post Tokyo he will actually be able to count Bangkok, Tokyo, Brisbane, Queens and Monte Carlo but the lowest of them will fall off when he gets his second mandatory zero post Basel / Valencia.

-- Edited by RJA on Wednesday 11th of September 2013 01:17:42 PM

RJA · Hall of fame

Andy isn't playing Basel or Valencia this year so he will play the 3 seek Asian swing, then have two weeks off before playing Paris and the WTF. That seems sensible but it does mean he will have only played 1 ATP 500 this year (+ Monte Carlo) so will have two mandatory zeros after Basel/Valencia.

indiana · Tennis legend

So effectively will have no year end points for Bangkok. Already has maximum 250 counts from what will be his two allowable ATP 250 counters ( Brisbane and Queens ).

Josh · Challenger level

indiana wrote:
So effectively will have no year end points for Bangkok. Already has maximum 250 counts from what will be his two allowable ATP 250 counters ( Brisbane and Queens ).

I've never quite managed to get my head around the ranking changes regarding the 'mandatory' 250s and 500s, but Ferrer has 3 250s counting towards his ranking (Buenos Aires, Auckland and Oeiras) so why couldn't Andy count Bangkok as his 3rd 250?

indiana · Tennis legend

Ah, I was thinking that if you didn't play at least 4 ATP 500s ( including Monte Carlo ) you had to count 4 ATP 500s. Thus for Andy, 2 zero counters and a maximum of 2 ATP 250 counters.

But I see from what RJA says that it is 2 zero counters plus best 4 ATP 250 / 500ers, in line with picking best 6 250 / 500ers if you play 4 ATP 500ers.

Gee, I really can't see Josh's problem. What's difficult to understand ? LOL

steven · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Ah, I was thinking that if you didn't play at least 4 ATP 500s ( including Monte Carlo ) you had to count 4 ATP 500s. Thus for Andy, 2 zero counters and a maximum of 2 ATP 250 counters.

But I see from what RJA says that it is 2 zero counters plus best 4 ATP 250 / 500ers, in line with picking best 6 250 / 500ers if you play 4 ATP 500ers.

Gee, I really can't see Josh's problem. What's difficult to understand ? LOL

When they first introduced the 1000/500/250 tournaments, it did work the way you thought - they changed it a year or two ago, because it was ridiculously unfair, while still forcing zero-pointers for 500s below the quota to try and keep up the level of entries for the 500 events.

However, for a system that was pushed through on the dodgy pretext of being simple for fans to understand, it was always a lot more complicated than it was before they introduced the new 'simplified' system in the first place and it has gradually got even worse as they have had to fix things they hadn't thought through properly.

I won't claim I was the only one who saw it coming ... for the simple reason that every amateur rankings 'expert' (and a lot more people besides) saw it coming - the only 'experts' who (collectively, at least) didn't see it coming were the ones employed by the ATP! disbelief

Jan · Hall of fame

ah that's what I like about new, simplified, improved systems!