Les Petits As 2011, Tarbes, France

DavidC · Tennis legend

Les Petits As 2011, Tarbes, France

DavidC · Tennis legend

Not a good start with the 4 British players in main draw action so far all losing (Lana Rush and Anna Brogan lost in the girls with a couple of other matches due to take place this evening)

Boys R1 (L64)

(Q) Daniel Little (GBR) v Marco Mosciatti (ITA)
(3) Andrey Rublev (RUS) d. Bjorn Thomson (GBR) 6-2 2-6 6-2
Sasha Marzetti (ITA) d. Lucas Taylor (GBR) 6-2 2-6 6-4

DavidC · Tennis legend

Make that 6 cry

Girls R1 (L64)

Chiara Grimm (SUI) d. Freya Christie (GBR) 6-3 6-4
(9) Ana Konjuh (CRO) d. Maia Lumsden (GBR) 6-0 6-1
(Q) Aliona Bolsova (MDA) v Kyra Akinnibi (GBR)
(3) Jelena Ostapenko (Lat) d. Anna Brogan (GBR) 6-2 6-0
Katherina Gerlach (GER) d. Lana Rush (GBR) 6-2 6-4

DavidC · Tennis legend

Kyra at least prevented a complete wipeout

Boys R1 (L64)

Marco Mosciatti (ITA) d. (Q) Daniel Little (GBR) 6-3 2-6 6-1

Girls R1 (L64)

Kyra Akinnibi (GBR) d. (Q) Aliona Bolsova (MDA) 6-3 1-6 6-4

R2

Kyra Akinnibi (GBR) v (10) Anna Sviripa (UKR)

DavidC · Tennis legend

After another emphatic loss in the girls event there's only doubles and consolation events with British interest

R2

(10) Anna Sviripa (UKR) d. Kyra Akinnibi (GBR) 6-2 6-0

thegingerlightbulb · Lower Club Player

Is it fair to say this is a little worrying. In the past we normally have top under 14 juniors who then don't fully make the transition into great pro's. If we suddenly have a derth of talent of tennis players between the ages 0f 12-14 then surely the LTA have gone even further backwards than we assumed?

BigBanger · Improver

thegingerlightbulb wrote:

Is it fair to say this is a little worrying. In the past we normally have top under 14 juniors who then don't fully make the transition into great pro's. If we suddenly have a derth of talent of tennis players between the ages 0f 12-14 then surely the LTA have gone even further backwards than we assumed?

You may not have noticed, we do have two boys at the top of the world junior game. This is only one rung off the professional ladder. It bodes well that when Andy Murray achieved this feat he was the only Brit. Currently there are two in the top 10 with another at 21. This is of course no guarantee but they are better placed then most to succeed. Just look at where Andy is now.

-- Edited by BigBanger on Wednesday 26th of January 2011 10:53:57 PM

Spectator · All-time great

I think that the thing causing concern is that in the particular age-group, 12 to 14s, we don't seem to be doing as spectacularly as we have in the past few years. No one would dispute that a number of the 16 to 18s are doing well! But I would look to others who have more wisdom than I to say whether the extremely successful runs by some of our juniors in the past few years are something that we could expect to be sustained consistently. My own guess is that no country -- even the ones with the best development systems -- will see classes like the Bettles/Morgan/Golding and Hoyt/Bambridge/Edmunds/Broady groups on a regular basis.

philwrig · Hall of fame

Don't forget Ashley/Sapwell as well.

BigBanger · Improver

Doing well at the 12-14 age group, is meaningless, at least in the U18s they are closer to the starting line.

Hey philwrig you mention Ashley and Sapwell. Why?
The British 1 and 2 for the U15s are Stoute/Sendegeya.

wolf · Tennis legend

^^^

Based on what rankings?

philwrig · Hall of fame

BigBanger wrote:

Doing well at the 12-14 age group, is meaningless, at least in the U18s they are closer to the starting line.

Hey philwrig you mention Ashley and Sapwell. Why?
The British 1 and 2 for the U15s are Stoute/Sendegeya.

If I remember correctly Sapwell won the u14 Orange Bowl and Ashley won the u14 Eddie Herr. Pretty impressive achievements for British juniors of their age, and both were seeded so must have a decent ranking.
Maybe Stoute and Sendegeya are a year older and thus marginally better but I don't have any facts to back up that argument.

BigBanger · Improver

ITF junior world rankings!

No they are the same age

-- Edited by BigBanger on Thursday 27th of January 2011 12:42:59 AM

wolf · Tennis legend

Sapwell has played no ITF events. Ashley one. So obviously they were playing different circuits (I guess Sapwell and Ashley were playing TE events?) so you can hardly compare the rankings.

philwrig · Hall of fame

Fair point but if you look at the Tennis Europe rankings both Ashwell and Sapwell are well ahead of the other two and that ranking is based upon a greater number of events played by each player so maybe a more accurate guide.